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Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:09AM (#31082035)
> those who hoard housing should get a kick from a exponential tax.

Yes, but at the same time it should not be possible for them to pass those costs on to people renting the house; rents should be fixed, or based on things like floor space and amenities.

But personally I think everyone should have a way in to the housing market. Renting is throwing away money; it goes into someone else's pocket and it's gone. When you buy a house you pay off a mortgage on the one hand, and (in today's economy) your property appreciates in value. Combine that with the issue that over here, a mortgage is cheaper than rent, and you can see how it's a huge issue.

I've spent something like €50.000 in rent before I finally bought a house; part of that was because I didn't want any longer term commitments, part was because I couldn't afford a house because even then the price of housing was going up sharply already. That's a lot of money that I'll never see again.

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by TimPC on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:37AM (#31082277)
Buying is throwing away money too, often just as much as the rent you were paying. Yes some portion of what you pay goes to principle and you eventually own the home but the following amounts are just lost money: - interest on the loan - utility bills - property taxes

You also have to replace anything that breaks and are responsible for all repairs on the property. Many of these replacements and repairs don’t increase the value of the home.

At best buying a home is a forced investment plan. It forces you to take money above and beyond the cost of rent and put it into a savings vehicle that generally generates good returns. But if you’re renting you could just as easily put that excess money into the stock market if you have the discipline to not spend it.

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by vel0city on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @10:08AM (#31083326)
You're missing a big point of buying with a fixed mortgage though -- its partially a hedge against housing cost inflation. Sure, property taxes will go up as property values increase, but taxes aren't really that large of the total housing cost of my home. Taxes could double and it still wouldn't be the majority of the cost of my house. Most of my monthly cost of my house is P&I, values that won't go up.

My mortgage, insurance, taxes, and savings towards repairs is now a good bit less than the current rent at my last apartment just a couple of miles from my house. But my house has over twice the square footage, a private garage, a private yard, etc.

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by joejerryronnie on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @10:25AM (#31083592)
But you’re sacrificing the flexibility of renting. While I agree the benefits of home ownership far outweigh long term renting, there are some trade-offs.
Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by vel0city on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @11:04AM (#31084114)
Absolutely. I'm not trying to point to buying a house as the answer for everyone. If you're not planning to stay in the area for at least a few years, chances are you'll be better served by renting. Everyone needs to do their own math on what they're wanting in life, there's no one-size-fits-all when it comes to housing.
Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by rank0 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @02:25PM (#31086880)
> Renting is throwing away money; it goes into someone else's pocket and it's gone.

Holy shit this is insane. Do you actually believe renting has no benefits?

When you purchase a property you’re on the hook for that mortgage payment for the next 30 years. Buyers absorb an enormous amount of risk. Maintenance is time consuming and expensive.

Renters can leave whenever they like and have no long term financial ties to the state of the property.

I guess everyone needs someone to fight against huh?

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by Drew_ on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:13PM (#31090611)
They didn't say renting has no benefits they said it's expensive and has no ROI.

You position renting as easy and buying as a burden and an "enormous risk" so I assume you will be renting apartments and leasing cars for the rest of your life surely?

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by rank0 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @03:44AM (#31093917)
Why should a renter get an ROI when they have zero investment in the property? No risk no reward.

> I assume you will be renting apartments and leasing cars for the rest of your life surely?

No. I will consider my current financial and life circumstances like a rational human being. Do you understand how the world works?

Re:Canada bans foreign home buyers for two years by nameisname on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:17AM (#31082102)
As you said in your comment there is a market for renting. I think in an ideal world, housing prices would not increase so rapidly. I remember a time where houses went up a lot more from quality renovations than just waiting a few months. A situation like that would increase the demand on rent and make it less appealing for slumlords and give them more incentive to keep quality tenants happy instead of viewing them as a space filler until you can cash out in a year.