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Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by goosedragons on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:46PM (#31077018)
You can buy metal PCs. There's loads of them. Microsoft themselves even make them. Pretty sure every big OEM has at least one laptop with a solid metal chassis at this point.

I prefer the plastic of my Thinkpad, it doesn't feel creaky, there's no "sticky-feeling texture". It doesn't boil on my lap the way metal MacBooks and PowerBooks have. It feels solid while also not denting from knocking it into a doorway by accident or worse yet deforming itself from it's own heat.

You can buy quality PCs. You just gotta pay more.

Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by MaxikCZ on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @03:38AM (#31080527)
I got HP Zbook Power G8 for work. It was fine on a table, until one day I tried to use it on my lap while cross legged sitting. The corners of the display lid (now pointed downwards and back), were so sharp I couldnt leave my PC in my lap. I took a metal file and lightly filed the corners the same day, fixing the issue. While I was at it, I also dropped a little glue under piece of paperthin metal cover that was already getting loose. On a less than a month old laptop, boasting Generation 8 in its name...

The fact that the trackpad comes without dedicated buttons is a tradeoff of size, but the amount of force needed to perform a click (even on the side where least amount of force is needed {yes, it varies}) is so high that the mouse WILL move a bit before click is registered, as your finger gets squished. Using anything but touch-tapping on it is impossible with single finger.

That same year I got my first ever macbook, M1 Air. I guess I dont even need to explain the difference in every aspect comming to mind between those two machines to illustrate my point.

Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by smackeyacky on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:31PM (#31077490)
Pay more for the corporate class laptops from HP or Dell i.e Elitebook

Supported longer, better materials, better keyboards.

I'd buy a second hand elitebook over a new acer or whatever any day.

Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by culopatin on Monday April 18, 2022 @09:32PM (#31078890)
Yep, I use and deploy them at work. The only problem I have with them is the screen. That privacy filter could be a godsend for someone on an airplane, but for every day use at home or office, it really kills the image quality
Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by throwing4321 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @03:28AM (#31080470)
Privacy filter means "HP Sure View Reflect" I guess?. There are 3 options for current HP Elitebook screens [1]. Only 1 of them has the privacy filter. I think the best option is to buy the middle one in that pic (low power, 400 nits).

[1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/...

Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/CES-2022-HP-announces-the-Elit...

Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by culopatin on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:43AM (#31081490)
Unfortunately at work they all ship with the sure view filter, I have no say on that.
Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by satsuma on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @03:39PM (#31087937)
typing this on a dell precision-class laptop and yeah, it's a dream. even between this and my latitude (which is still business class but one tier down) it's noticeable.

there are nice quality laptops to be had, they're just expensive enough that apple becomes competitive price-wise.

Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by pnutjam on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @01:14PM (#31100046)
True, I tend to stick to business class and buy off lease equipment. It's usually pretty durable and repairable. You can even get parts.
Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by conk on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @02:04AM (#31080102)
Funny I wish my M1 MBP ran hotter. It’s uncomfortably cold in the mornings.
Re:Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these... by ALittleLight on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @03:46AM (#31080571)
Schedule a cron job to run some program to heat up in the mornings.