Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by Tijdreiziger on Monday April 18, 2022 @07:57AM
(#31069549)
Well, you gain privacy from corporations. You have to keep your software up-to-date, though, or you risk losing privacy to hackers.
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Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by orangepurple on Monday April 18, 2022 @09:17AM
(#31070139)
Or you can simply run an application level default-deny firewall and never use a web browser. You don't need to keep your software up-to-date in a homelab.
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by Tijdreiziger on Monday April 18, 2022 @10:06AM
(#31070768)
But then you can't access your data outside your local network. That may be acceptable depending on your use case, but at that point it's not a 1-to-1 alternative to cloud services.
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by orangepurple on Monday April 18, 2022 @11:14AM
(#31071801)
SSH tunnel with passwords disabled; use ed25519 keys. Or wireguard if you are feeling adventurous
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by Tijdreiziger on Monday April 18, 2022 @11:58AM
(#31072453)
So then you need to keep SSH or WireGuard up-to-date (at least in terms of security patches).
Also, are you going to SSH in every time you need to access a document from your phone? Again, use-cases differ, but that's not a 1-to-1 alternative to, say, Dropbox.
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by orangepurple on Monday April 18, 2022 @01:52PM
(#31074115)
You would use wireguard for that use case, possibly on a regularly updated computer, and update your network firewall rules to accommodate that setup.
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by Tijdreiziger on Monday April 18, 2022 @02:32PM
(#31074641)
Yes, but you agree you need to apply security patches in that case, right?
Your original comment amounted to "you don't need to apply updates if you firewall everything", to which I replied "that's not a replacement for a cloud service". Your subsequent comments then amount to "well you can just poke a hole in your firewall for WireGuard". So which is it, do you need to apply updates (e.g. to WireGuard) or not?
Re:Assume your devices are compromised
by orangepurple on Monday April 18, 2022 @04:32PM
(#31076101)
I suppose you can maintain secure remote access if you run a very minimal wireguard server on a low power device similar to a raspberry pi running on a updated/patched distro. You can still keep 99% of your gear running in the back without updates. This way the amount of update churn can be minimized.