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Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by kevin_thibedeau on Sunday April 17, 2022 @12:42PM (#31062141)
They've removed Yandex and are now at the mercy of Bing's censorship.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by BurdensomeCount on Sunday April 17, 2022 @03:37PM (#31063681)
Amazing that nowadays if you want the best "uncensored" results you have to go to the Russian Yandex (at least on all topics unrelated to Russia). How did our society get to such a point...
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by krick on Monday April 18, 2022 @12:23AM (#31067411)
It has been like that for the long time, actually. I've seen examples where somewhat political search clause (in Russian) yields completely different results on Google & Yandex (it's actually hard to tell which one "tweaks" the results, and what tweaking even really means, when you think about it — my guess would be both, but differently). But in a sense of intentionally hiding something "neutral" that I know perfectly well must be there, but isn't (and it seems like you can guess why) — I've never actually noticed in on Yandex, while on Google it has been like that for the whole decade already. (I don't find is that surprising, really. To me, it's perfectly logical, but I won't elaborate, because it would be political and extremely unpopular on HN, which seems like a worthless flamewar topic to me.)

But in my experience Yandex just isn't as good at searching things in English, as DDG/Bing. At least, I always preferred them for most use-cases except from some really specific ones. So it's a pity that this thing with DDG happened. I guess, I'll still continue to use it for now, because I don't want to hurt my productivity other that thing (and switching to a search engine I would have to adapt to most certainly would do that). But we'll see.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by GoblinSlayer on Monday April 18, 2022 @03:24AM (#31068239)
I suppose that's a real use case for a meta search engine: send queries to different search engines, then interlace the results removing duplicates.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by BurdensomeCount on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:58AM (#31068954)
DDG was supposed to be like this originally, but they stopped using Yandex a while ago so now its just a wrapper on Bing...
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by samoa42 on Monday April 18, 2022 @10:52AM (#31071460)
i mean yes, it's suboptimal. but hardly news that for the real deal, you gotta leave the main road.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by markdown on Sunday April 17, 2022 @03:48PM (#31063799)
If that isn't a rhetorical question... capitalism.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by kenoph on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:07PM (#31064522)
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by mpalczewski on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:03PM (#31064495)
> capitalism

If capitalism caused censorship you would expect the least capitalist places to have the least censorship but the opposite is true.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by kenoph on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:14PM (#31064586)
If capitalism causes censorship, that doesn't mean it's necessarily the worst at causing censorship.

Additionally, we don't live in a stationary society, so, whatever capitalism did or did not cause in the past might not apply as-is today.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by stjohnswarts on Sunday April 17, 2022 @06:17PM (#31065032)
Capitalism (as practiced by democracies) allows you to start an alternative site that doesn't censor results as well. Totalitarianism (Communism) would not have. Choose your poison from amongst the various governments that have succeeded (for a while) in the past as I don't think Utopia is a possibility with humans as messed up as we are.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by markdown on Monday April 18, 2022 @07:13AM (#31069311)
I'm not sure what your point is. The GP commenter asked what brought us here... it was capitalism. It was people starting other sites that didn't censor or didn't have ads or didn't do this or that. The winners of capitalism are what we have now.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by samoa42 on Monday April 18, 2022 @10:49AM (#31071400)
right, russians went from cyber-shady to cyber-pure-evil and now everyone has to cut ties...