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Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by roughly on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:06PM (#31047557)
> An ETF isn’t going to “accidentally” exceed 15% ownership of Twitter.

No, but an ETF has a defined investment strategy, and if enough money comes into the ETF, it could potentially trigger this.

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:30PM (#31047703)
Do you think big ETFs just buy shares willy nilly without any due diligence on company charters and bylaws?
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by thaumasiotes on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:19PM (#31048137)
Index funds do, that's pretty much the definition of an index fund.

ETFs are a different concept, but a good index fund will be structured as an ETF, and it looks like this thread is using "ETF" to mean "index fund"? If so, then the answer to your question is an unambiguous yes.

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @04:32AM (#31050702)
This is simply incorrect. Index funds still do basic due diligence, they would not trigger this poison pill.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by roughly on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:04PM (#31048008)
I’m curious what happens in that case, then - let’s say hypothetically that SPY has enough cash come into the fund that they’ll cross that threshold if they follow their stated investment policy (“buy the S&P”) - what’s the move, then?
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by lalaland1125 on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:45PM (#31048843)
Buy futures or other assets that will mimic the price.

The stated investment goal isn't "buy the S&P", it's "match the price of the S&P".

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by roughly on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:03PM (#31048977)
How far can you go with that strategy? The derivative assets aren’t going to fully move with the price, and can have much higher volatility than the asset you’re trying to avoid buying.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @04:42AM (#31050764)
No, you aren’t going to have higher volatility like this than you would buy triggering a poison pill like discussed in the article.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @04:45AM (#31050774)
They will talk to Twitter board and make an agreement with them to not trigger the poison pill, and continue buying shares.

Such an agreement would be reached incredibly quickly, there would be no need for stopgap measures.

From the article:

> Under the new structure, if any person or group acquires beneficial ownership of at least 15% of Twitter’s outstanding common stock without the board’s approval

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by quickthrowman on Friday April 15, 2022 @09:48PM (#31048369)
If it’s a passively managed index fund, then yes, absolutely.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @04:35AM (#31050725)
That is not what passive management means.

For example in the case of SPY, that would go against their stated investment objective.

They also clearly state

> the Trust may fail to own certain Index Securities at any particular time, the Trust generally will be substantially invested in Index Securities

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by quickthrowman on Saturday April 16, 2022 @09:25AM (#31052135)
Alright, then I suppose they’d buy up to 14.9% and then create additional long exposure thru swaps or synthetic longs using options.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @09:47AM (#31052282)
Or they’d just hit up twitter’s board, enter an agreement with them, and continue buying shares as normal.

The poison pill just requires prior approval from the board, which they would happily grant in this kind of a case.

Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by saalweachter on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:42PM (#31048826)
... wouldn't that imply the ETF was 15% of the market or market segment overall?
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by roughly on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:05PM (#31048999)
Yes, which is excessive, I agree, but there’s nothing mechanically preventing it.
Re:Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to... by rosndo on Saturday April 16, 2022 @06:18AM (#31051184)
So you do agree with me that this is not going to happen.