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Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by bsder on Friday April 15, 2022 @06:47PM (#31046881)
> Meanwhile roundabouts can safely and efficiently move staggering amounts of traffic.

I don't find this to be accurate--at least in the US and in my limited experience in the UK. In computer terms, roundabouts don't guarantee progress under contention.

Roundabouts seem to work when there is semi-continuous, medium-level amounts of traffic. They are better than stop signs, better than unsensored signals, and probably comparable to sensored traffic signals (which are more expensive).

However, once the traffic becomes high, roundabouts are TERRIBLE. Stop signs and controlled intersections at least guarantee some progress while someone may sit at a roundabout entrance almost indefinitely since "give way to traffic on the roundabout" is the normal rule. This is particularly bad when you are entering a roundabout between the most popular inlet and the most popular outlet.

Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by traceroute66 on Saturday April 16, 2022 @03:58AM (#31050532)
> in my limited experience in the UK

I think you need to spend a bit more time in the UK !

Take Hyde Park Corner for example. A bit of an extreme example as it is a super-busy roundabout. I will grant you that its not one where you will make smooth progress during peak rush-hour (outside of peak it works perfectly though).

There are also other good (and less extreme) examples along the secondary routes out of Heathrow (i.e. along Bath Road and Great West Road).

There's no way in hell you could replace any of the above with a US-style multi-way stop and achieve the same throughput of traffic.

Roundabouts work so well because you can have that magical combination of vehicles already established on the roundabout and also adding new vehicles all the time.

Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by timthorn on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:16PM (#31047624)
At very busy roundabouts in the UK, drivers usually yield in turn to traffic joining that in theory they have priority over.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by traceroute66 on Saturday April 16, 2022 @03:44AM (#31050471)
Also at busy roundabouts in the UK it is expected that you will arrive to join the roundabout via the correct lane for the exit you desire.

If you try to join via the wrong lane then you're in for a world of hell. ;-)