Re:Sunken Moskva Could Be the Biggest Naval Combat Loss in 4...
by TulliusCicero on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:44PM
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> So you're tarring both sides of the current war in your comment.
Okay? What does this have to do with what I said? The Russians were obviously in charge of the USSR.
> We don't know, but to downplay the player
You're misreading what I wrote. I'm not talking about the importance of their contribution, but about their general competence. Even with US supplies, the USSR took absurdly huge losses against a smaller population invader, while fighting on their own home turf. That speaks to general ineffectiveness, that they could only win through overwhelming numbers.
The most important purpose of a military is to defend their country's populace. The USSR utterly failed here. You can argue that this is because the USSR was also just less economically developed than Germany, but that doesn't exactly paint the country in a flattering light either.
> The Soviet Union (nor the UK) didn't have the luxury to sit back and scale their industry
Bullshit, they could've done it earlier. Germany went back on peace to split Poland with the USSR, any idiot could see the likelihood of eventual backstabbing. Stalin knew it was coming, he was just wrong on exactly when because he didn't believe the intel he got.
> War is hell and shouldn't be romanticised or seen as a solution.
Okay? What does this have to do with what I said? The Russians were obviously in charge of the USSR.
> We don't know, but to downplay the player
You're misreading what I wrote. I'm not talking about the importance of their contribution, but about their general competence. Even with US supplies, the USSR took absurdly huge losses against a smaller population invader, while fighting on their own home turf. That speaks to general ineffectiveness, that they could only win through overwhelming numbers.
The most important purpose of a military is to defend their country's populace. The USSR utterly failed here. You can argue that this is because the USSR was also just less economically developed than Germany, but that doesn't exactly paint the country in a flattering light either.
> The Soviet Union (nor the UK) didn't have the luxury to sit back and scale their industry
Bullshit, they could've done it earlier. Germany went back on peace to split Poland with the USSR, any idiot could see the likelihood of eventual backstabbing. Stalin knew it was coming, he was just wrong on exactly when because he didn't believe the intel he got.
> War is hell and shouldn't be romanticised or seen as a solution.
Obviously.