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Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by legalcorrection on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:19PM (#31042006)
Being allowed to turn right on red is the law in every US state. The only real exception is that it's banned in a few downtowns and, obviously, wherever a sign says otherwise.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by eatonphil on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:21PM (#31042048)
One counterexample, right turn on red is not allowed anywhere in any borough of NYC. And outer Queens/Brooklyn/Staten Island are indistinguishable (to me) from the rest of Long Island (suburb). (i.e. not just downtown/busy areas of NYC)
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by zip1234 on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:33PM (#31042230)
Right turn on red really doesn't belong anywhere where people could be on the street. Drivers turning red will often pull forward into the crosswalk and there may be a walk signal.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by Tabular-Iceberg on Friday April 15, 2022 @01:53PM (#31043352)
How is that any different from a right turn on green where there may be a walk signal?
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by zip1234 on Friday April 15, 2022 @02:30PM (#31043883)
In a right turn on green scenario, the driver mainly needs to be looking for pedestrians crossing and they will be crossing a different direction. In a right turn on red, their primary focus is on cars, limiting their attention on pedestrians. It also encourages creeping out into the crosswalk, blocking people from crossing on a signal.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by Tabular-Iceberg on Saturday April 16, 2022 @11:56AM (#31053318)
That makes sense. Being European I’m often annoyed at not being allowed to turn right on red. Allowing it at non-pedestrian intersections would perhaps be a fair compromise.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by chrisseaton on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:19PM (#31044553)
Blows my mind you’d both tell a pedestrian to cross and also allow a car to drive through at the same time.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by legalcorrection on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:29PM (#31044677)
So you'd have every intersection come to a complete stop in all directions for pedestrian crossings? New York would come to a complete standstill.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by zip1234 on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:37PM (#31044790)
I mean, only 15% of Manhattan population owns a car.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by jen20 on Friday April 22, 2022 @07:18PM (#31129446)
And thus many of them rely on the cross town busses. Which would be brought to a stop if what you propose was implemented.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by legalcorrection on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:24PM (#31042099)
Yes, NYC is not just pragmatically anti-car (which to some extent it needs to be), it is also ideologically anti-car, and that manifests in stupid rules like that.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by eatonphil on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:25PM (#31042113)
NYC has free parking in every borough which is fairly pro-car in my (admittedly probably anti-car) circles.
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by zip1234 on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:40PM (#31044834)
The most expensive real estate per sq foot in the world and they allow people to store personal cars for free on the street. Ludicrous
Re:The Colorado Safety Stop is the law of the land by TheCoelacanth on Friday April 15, 2022 @12:58PM (#31042566)
That's not a stupid rule. Right-on-red is quite unsafe for pedestrians.