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Re:What Is at Stake in Ukraine by mannykannot on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:48AM (#31039592)
This seems to be quite a common view: "I'm not upset by the invasion of Ukraine because the US has done a bunch of bad things."

Bringing the US into the issue seems to be quite the non-sequitur - is self-determinancy a concept that can only be viewed through the lens of US imperialism? Are the rights of Ukrainians (and other states bordering Russia) merely a construct of US policy?

Suppose the US currently had in place an administration which took an isolationist, ambivalent or even "Putin has valid concerns" attitude - this is hardly a speculative leap - would your attitude change? If there is nothing to see in what is happening in Ukraine, why would US imperialism bother you?

Re:What Is at Stake in Ukraine by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday April 15, 2022 @06:41PM (#31046810)
> This seems to be quite a common view: "I'm not upset by the invasion of Ukraine because the US has done a bunch of bad things."

There's a history to this "What about this other thing" distraction / derailing technique, and it was fairly common from Russia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Soviet_Union_and_...

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/th...