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Re:What Is at Stake in Ukraine by CuriouslyC on Friday April 15, 2022 @08:44AM (#31039559)
They're also a major supplier of other "illicit" chems like steroids, as well as things that are borderline illicit such as research chemicals (recreational drug analogs), and have been since forever. It mostly comes down to they don't really care about western law unless it impacts their business, and they'll make whatever they can sell.

Russian energy sanctions are definitely coming, so your second point is moot.

Re:What Is at Stake in Ukraine by Gollapalli on Friday April 15, 2022 @01:29PM (#31042993)
>China

It’s not just the manufacture but the money laundering for the cartels. Maybe “It’s just business” but so is knocking America down a peg.

>Russian energy sanctions

This is the core problem. We in the west are under the parochial impression that most of the world will follow along with this, and that impression is incorrect. Russia has too many resources, that too much of the world is reliant upon. That is the crux of the decision that is being forced, and IMHO it is not going to be forced in our favor.

If we wanted to force such a decision, it should have been from a far stronger position, with ready alternatives for the rest of the world in place. Of course, it was the Russians who took the initiative on when that would or would not be possible.