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Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by Symbiote on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @07:18AM (#31001057)
The rolling resistance of steel wheels on steel rails is much, much lower than rubber tyres on an asphalt road.

From [1], the only comparable figures are the American train and the American bus. The bus is about half as efficient as the train.

There are similar figures further down the page ("German environmental costs") -- 0.25MJ/passenger-km for long distance rail, 0.85MJ/pkm for regional rail, 1.14MJ/pkm for bus service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport...

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by jseban on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @07:58AM (#31001378)
> The rolling resistance of steel wheels on steel rails is much, much lower than rubber tyres on an asphalt road.

Exactly, and you need rolling resistance for traction. The heavier the load, the lower resistance you need, and vice versa, because the weight of the load increases resistance. Which is why you don't ship hay on trains, and don't ship iron on trucks.

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by pg314 on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @09:10AM (#31002161)
> Exactly, and you need rolling resistance for traction.

No, you don’t. Look at e.g. gears: almost no friction, perfect traction.

> Which is why you don't ship hay on trains

No. You don’t ship it on trains because that is uneconomic. You keep your cattle close to your hay producing fields, where they can also graze.

Also, by your reasoning, an empty train would not be able to move?

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by jseban on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @12:21PM (#31004731)
Also the reason why trains can't run uphill, while cars and trucks can.