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Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by KennyBlanken on Monday April 11, 2022 @09:42PM (#30997581)
The US airline industry is massively subsidized. Every country heavily subsidizes air travel.

The federal government spends $2BN/year on Amtrak and people lose their damn minds.

Meanwhile, at the FAA, nearly $12BN/year...and that doesn't account for all the local and state funds used to subsidize airports. Or Department of Transportation spending...

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by nextos on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @12:13AM (#30998541)
Airlines seem to be a bad business in the long run.

I recall a figure from MIT's microeconomics textbook (Pindyck et al.) where they showed the aggregate profits of all industry since its inception were negative.

In EU, subsidies to airlines are an indirect subsidy to the tourism industry.

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by criddell on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @07:35AM (#31001201)
In the US I think airlines are really in the business of selling air miles and credit cards.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by TulliusCicero on Monday April 11, 2022 @10:03PM (#30997749)
How does that subsidy look per trip, though?
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by zdragnar on Monday April 11, 2022 @10:34PM (#30997935)
Amtrack moves just shy of 17 million passengers in a year. Airlines in the US do that in 8 days. That's works out to roughly 45x as many passengers, with only what, 6x the subsidies?
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by xyzzyz on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @02:33AM (#30999346)
I think if you don't look at raw passenger figures, but instead at passenger-miles, it becomes even more lopsided in favor of airlines.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @05:27AM (#31000391)
American rail is apparently heavily biased towards moving freight. This may even be a good thing, but it'll throw out the numbers if you compare train to car or plane and don't include it.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by afiori on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @02:12AM (#30999213)
> and that doesn't account for all the local and state funds used to subsidize airports. Or Department of Transportation spending...

probably this counts for at least a few billions

Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by pastage on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @01:28AM (#30998947)
How does that translate to carbon foot print per dollar.
Re:Europe is investing heavily in trains by xyzzyz on Tuesday April 12, 2022 @02:35AM (#30999353)
Most Amtrak trains are diesel powered.