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Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by t-3 on Sunday April 10, 2022 @09:31AM (#30976796)
My cats like mirrors? They use them to look at themselves and around corners while stalking each other. I don't think they particularly like being seen in mirrors any more than being seen normally though (which makes sense for small, specialized, ambush predators in the middle of the food chain).
Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by kcrx on Sunday April 10, 2022 @10:11AM (#30977044)
Our cat does too.

We have a bathroom just off our living room that has a very large mirror above the vanity. The cat likes to get drinks out of the bathroom sink (we’re trained).

If she sits on a corner of the vanity when the bathroom door is open, she can see the living room in the mirror. She will stare into the mirror until she sees someone look at her. When she catches your eye, the meowing to turn on the sink begins.

She also stares at herself in a hallway mirror a lot. We think she thinks she’s pretty.

Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by kitsunesoba on Sunday April 10, 2022 @10:18AM (#30977094)
One of my cats looks me in the eyes through my bathroom mirror on a nearly daily basis, often meowing at me while doing so. He also likes nuzzling his face up against mine while our faces are close to the mirror, almost like he enjoys seeing us cuddling as much as actually cuddling.
Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by unfocussed_mike on Sunday April 10, 2022 @09:52AM (#30976912)
Make videos of this.

There really is a conventional scientific view that cats are not capable of passing typical mirror-related self-awareness tests.

But it strikes me that the problem might be that the tests just aren't designed to test cats.

Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by stephencanon on Sunday April 10, 2022 @03:44PM (#30980948)
Every cat we’ve ever had very clearly understood mirrors. If that’s really the conventional view of scientists in the field, that’s basically willful ignorance.
Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by unfocussed_mike on Monday April 11, 2022 @06:19AM (#30986768)
Understanding how to track others in mirrors is one thing -- understanding with clarity that the cat in the mirror is them, is actually another.

The mirror dot test (which I imagine needs to be done really carefully with cats since they instinctively clean their own faces and necks, and have sensitive whiskers) shows whether the animal fully understands that the reflection is specifically of them, and can use that reflection to solve a puzzle.

I have said elsewhere that it's kind of just about possible for the ears-in-the-mirror cat to not understand the mirror cat is herself, but it is an increasingly implausible alternative.

The mirror dot test may have its limitations on a species basis, but it is not easy to come up with a universal test.

Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by hiq on Sunday April 10, 2022 @05:13PM (#30981761)
Should be simple enough to prove, here is the test to pass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test
Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by buildbot on Sunday April 10, 2022 @11:26AM (#30977876)
Same with my cat as well! I am not sure she gets the mirror exactly; but Shem sometimes will watch us through it, otherwise just ignores it. She is never troubled by them.
Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by saltminer on Monday April 11, 2022 @09:13PM (#30997374)
My mother's cats love to hide behind things to bat at the other walking through, ambushing them.

After realizing the mirror could be used to spot a potential assailant and take evasive measures, they stopped trying to get each other at the doorway to my mother's bedroom.

Re:How Intelligent Are Cats? (2004) by unixhero on Sunday April 10, 2022 @10:02AM (#30976975)
Yes, this is not normal.