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Re:Middle managers fear they've become irrelevant with work ... by lupire on Saturday April 09, 2022 @06:39PM (#30972846)
The offices solution to Coase's paradox is that central planning doesn't scale well.

This is similar to federalism -- central governments don't work very well for everything, but scaler local governments are still effective for local issues.

Re:Middle managers fear they've become irrelevant with work ... by vkou on Saturday April 09, 2022 @08:25PM (#30973403)
Except that the most successful companies work in the opposite manner from what you describe. Your line workers and manager may know how best to solve a problem, but they are almost never empowered to implement that solution, because upper management is not interested in delegating that power to them.

Pour one out to anyone who has ever done a sprint retrospective, or a company 360 review, where all the important problems get skipped over because 'there's nothing we can do about this, this, and that.'

Line workers and managers are given an incredibly narrow window in which they are permitted to operate. Anything beyond that needs beurocratic approval. Much like in the Soviet Union, sometimes that beurocracy is staffed by intelligent human beings, but usually it is staffed by donkeys. People who care enough about doing their work find ways to work around the latter, or just give up and punch in their 9-5.

Re:Middle managers fear they've become irrelevant with work ... by nemothekid on Sunday April 10, 2022 @02:51PM (#30980405)
This contrast is interesting; taking it a bit further is that in free countries the concern with individual participation is that not everyone is sufficiently educated or motivated to actually provide meaningful insight or course correction.

Hypothetically, A firm like Tesla or SpaceX maybe be so successful in engineer feedback because they are high demand places to work and they have not exhausted the pool of individuals who can provide great work. However as the company needs to scale, or as the company becomes less glamourous you have people who either (1) just aren't as capable or (2) don't care to expend any creativity on solving the needs of the company (either because there's no reward or they are interested in other areas).

Furthermore, a company that is not centrally planned will most likely move slower than a centrally planned one. Just like how China is able to forcibly take your land to build railways; an action like that in a free society has many gatekeepers that would slow down such a process. Any public company, that is measured on a quartely basis would find themselves grappling with showing change to wall street.

Re:Middle managers fear they've become irrelevant with work ... by inglor_cz on Sunday April 10, 2022 @02:10AM (#30974809)
IIRC one of the reasons why Tesla/SpaceX are so successful is that they give a lot of voice to the engineers that really work on the products.
Re:Middle managers fear they've become irrelevant with work ... by vkou on Sunday April 10, 2022 @03:14AM (#30975057)
Which would make them the exception that proves the rule. Most of the other Fortune 498 does not.