Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by vondur on Saturday April 09, 2022 @04:55PM
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This isn’t the case here in the US. We have thousands of miles of off road areas that aren’t accessible to non off road vehicles. But I do agree that a large portion of people here in the US that have huge lifted vehicles never go off road.
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Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by pcthrowaway on Saturday April 09, 2022 @05:19PM
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I've climbed in Canada, Italy, Germany, and Greece (but not a ton in Italy), and it seems like Greece especially has many climbing areas that are hard to access without a 4wd. I traveled around in a rental and bottomed out so many times, but also had to just give up and turn around on several occasions.
It's been a while since I climbed in Italy, but I remember it being pretty similar.
Admittedly, the limited climbing in Germany I did had pretty good parking access.
I suspect there are many European countries whose climbing access is more like Greece though.
Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by euro_climber123 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @05:42PM
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No need to suspect anything. My list included the major climbing areas of Europes major climbing countries and none of them require a four-wheel drive. Even some of the more secluded Swiss areas (Gimmelwald, Rawyl) are easily accessible in a camper van. And I know that for a fact, because I've been there myself.