Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by pandaman on Saturday April 09, 2022 @05:34PM
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This, again, comes to the cars popularity: laws and regulations "prioritize" cars because people who make them drive cars. The anti-car crowd to me looks as same as the anti-shoes types (there are people who insist on walking barefoot, I know a few) if[1] they started to insist that there is a vast conspiracy to prioritize footwear and only that holds off construction of heated sidewalks and prohibition of the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" signage.
1. To clarify: none of the barefoot walkers I know does that, they seem to be pretty content with the status quo and are not militant about propagating their lifestyle to everyone hence "if".
Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by jimmaswell on Saturday April 09, 2022 @05:23PM
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This is 500m. You would actually walk this if you had a car right in front of you?
I'd bike it for sure but otherwise I'd definitely drive.
Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by plorkyeran on Saturday April 09, 2022 @06:27PM
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Unless I'm in enough of a hurry to not be able to spend 15 minutes walking or I need to haul stuff, absolutely.
Re:Parking kills businesses, not bikes or buses
by slyall on Saturday April 09, 2022 @07:28PM
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500m is around 6 minutes walk for a normal person (5km/hour or 3 mph). Perhaps 10 if you are a slow walker due to age etc. Any delay with parking or traffic means that driving won't save you much.
I just walked about 1km and back to a suburban market to get my lunch.
But, many do due to the lack of alternatives. Especially in the US/Canada, but also in Europe (especially anything built recently). People will drive because they don’t feel safe cycling/walking, or because their destination is too far. Or they will own several cars while they could just go on with one.
I don’t think anyone is really advocating for completely removing cars from the street or cities. I personally don’t own one (and this is a priority for me - I don’t want one), but I do take rides with friends or a cab from time to time.
What most advocates want (including me) is to stop prioritising cars in every single decision. Mixed zoning laws will remove lots of car trips if you can just walk to the shop when you need a couple of items or a coffee. Making streets car free (bar few exception) will make people come out and enjoy the street. Making people pay a fair price for parking will avoid subsidising a huge amount of land for private use. Removing parking will add lots of space on the streets for things that people enjoy. Better public transportation will favour everyone, especially poorer communities. And proper ciclying and walking infrastructure will allow more and more people to do so safely.
If after that someone still want to use private cars, then be my guest.