MIT graduate students vote to unionize

Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by ModernMech on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:57AM (#30969132)

It's not really unchecked though. There's the department vice chair, department chair, the college dean, the dean of student affairs, a student senate, a faculty senate, etc. etc... there's a structure here for resolving grievances.

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by logifail on Saturday April 09, 2022 @12:25PM (#30969405)

> there's a structure here for resolving grievances

That may look good on paper. Yet a 20-something student vs an academic surrounded by supporters and wielding power and influence, it's only ever going to go one way.

I've personally been on the wrong end of it. After reviewing my options, noting that my supervisor had just been elected Fellow of the Royal Society in London, I decided to bite my tongue, complete my PhD, and leave.

The relationship was so broken I didn't even say goodbye to my supervisor (literally cleared out all my stuff from the lab very late one night), and I've never spoken to him, or had any contact with anyone in his research group ever since.

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by Fomite on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:55PM (#30974356)

"it's only ever going to go one way."

I have seen it go the other way as well.

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by patrick451 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:53PM (#30974352)

Yeah, that's all just a dog and pony show. If you escalate an issue with your advisor through any of those channels, your career is toast. You might as well just quit.

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by gwbrooks on Saturday April 09, 2022 @03:42PM (#30971319)

Agree, and let's also remember that these are wholly voluntary situations. Unchecked power is a pretty big charge in a situation where the student can (Yes, at a cost) always walk away.

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by logifail on Saturday April 09, 2022 @03:54PM (#30971421)

> Agree, and let's also remember that these are wholly voluntary situations

Someone is in a position of power over someone else, and is exploiting that, and a response is to claim that this is a "wholly voluntary situation"?

Really?!

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Re:MIT graduate students vote to unionize by patrick451 on Sunday April 10, 2022 @12:03AM (#30974384)

I take it you think we should do away with workplace discrimination laws, the minimum wage and OSHA too. I for one, wish there were more thumbs in my canned chili. It's been a little bland lately.

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