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Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by joyeuse6701 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:15AM (#30968256)
The vaccines do not prevent infection but reduce the ultimate harm of the infection.
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:22AM (#30968297)
This position leads to inevitable follow up question: if vaccination reduces only personal risks, and does not prevent infection spread, why forcing it on anyone? If a person is unwilling to vaccinate and accepts the higher risk of a negative outcome, let him decide for himself, no?
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by maxerickson on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:50AM (#30968505)
The vaccines do reduce transmission, even if they don't prevent it.

You have to pretty much be willfully ignoring this fact to not understand it at this point.

Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by petefromnorth on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:06AM (#30968656)
The majority of western countries did this. Optional vaccines, restricted from public gatherings if you choose to not get it.
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by dekhn on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:13AM (#30968712)
vaccines do not only reduce personal risks. Can you please form a better argument?
Re:An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday April 09, 2022 @12:12PM (#30969277)
Before I form 'a better argument' for you, can you please make an argument yourself about the effects of the vaccines besides reducing personal risks?

To note: I'm personally vaccinated, but people who think it is OK to restrict personal freedoms of other people based on very fluid and agenda-driven narrative about the current state of the 'scientific consensus' do not get much respect from me. Maybe it is because I'm from a country where personal freedoms are routinely abused and I value them much more than people who take these freedoms for grated.