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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by ehsankia on Saturday April 09, 2022 @04:07AM (#30966111)
I visited maybe around a decade ago, and was truly saddened by the state of it. It was all in ruin, maybe 1 guard watching the whole area, anyone could come, take a piece and leave, and many unfortunately do. The best pieces of Persepolis are sadly kept outside the country, in places such as the Louvre [0]. Iran itself does such a poor job at taking care of it's truly breathtaking historical and touristic sites. A few years ago I also got the chance to visit Tepe Sialk [1], which had settlements dating back 6000 BC. Again, barely a single person around. Striked a conversation with the old man at the gift shop, and it turns out he was one of the archeologists that had spent decades exploring the site alongside famous French archeologists. Many of the pieces again ending up at the Louvre.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/arts/persian-collections-...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tepe_Sialk

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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by andydd on Saturday April 09, 2022 @06:55AM (#30966927)
It's sad how much has been stolen and kept in western museums. Just look at what's in the British Museum in London...
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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by xyzzy4 on Saturday April 09, 2022 @07:03AM (#30966968)
Well isn’t it better to safeguard things in the British Museum than let them get lost forever?
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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by bin_bash on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:37AM (#30968402)
Yep. Better stolen than destroyed if you ask me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan

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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by bobdupneu on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:47AM (#30969036)
It was in stable condition until it was set on fire by a westerner and until part of the remains were stolen by other westerners. Plus the country would be a democracy today without western 1953 coup.
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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by eternalban on Saturday April 09, 2022 @01:32PM (#30970039)
Xerxes shouldn't have burned Athens. His father, Darius, in fact had advised him to follow the protocol set by himself and Cyrus.

Dr. Mossadeqh was not running a "democracy". Post WWII Iran's political space was far more complex than the caricature presented since the fall of the Shah, and sans British instigated support for counter-coup to remove Mossadegh with help from USA, a quite significant chunk of Iranian military and society, including the Clergy (who were already using terror in Iran, btw), agreed with the American analysis that Mossadegh would merely precede a Soviet controlled Tudeh takeover of Iran.

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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by satao on Saturday April 09, 2022 @09:58AM (#30968120)
No, it's not. Classic example of imperialistic people...

Leave them there, take care of them there. Stop thinking everything from poor nations is up for grabs.

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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by gunfighthacksaw on Saturday April 09, 2022 @10:07AM (#30968184)
> take care of them there

Which clearly isn’t happening, so IMO it makes sense to store them in a stable society with enforced property rights.

Doesn’t have to be UK or France.

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Re:Persepolis of ancient Persia rendered in WebGL by benbreen on Saturday April 09, 2022 @11:30AM (#30968878)
Persepolis wasn’t in great condition when I went but it also wasn’t a shambles. There’s a gift shop, guards, and a reconstruction of part of the palace, and a lot of tourists. Also a small set of offices for archaeologists. I’m a professional historian so I was a little bummed by the lack of adequate public-facing educational markers and texts, but it certainly can’t be compared to something like the Buddhas of Bamiyan as an excuse for removing items to European museums.
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