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Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by hulitu on Friday April 08, 2022 @07:38AM (#30955716)
And you really believe that "every ISP" sells your data, only Cloudfare is not doing it ? You know, Apple was a "privacy oriented company" until some years ago.
Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by autoexec on Friday April 08, 2022 @07:53AM (#30955811)
Well... I said "some ISPs" sell your data, not "every ISP", but I wouldn't put it past any of them. Personally, I don't trust cloudflare, I don't like efforts to kill ad-blocking, and I don't like further consolidating people's DNS traffic into the hands of a smaller and smaller number of providers. I've got the feature disabled for now. I wish someone like EFF would set up a DNS server supporting DoT. I'd pay for the service!
Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by sbarre on Friday April 08, 2022 @08:15AM (#30955958)
ISPs don't have the best profit margins, especially ones in competitive markets..

If the big players are selling DNS data, I guarantee you there are companies out there approaching every other smaller ISP with a turnkey solution that makes it as easy as possible to do the same thing with some kind of revenue share model.

Not a lot of businesses would turn down extra money like that, when they know their big competitors are doing the same thing.

Unlike most ISPs, privacy and security are a core part of Cloudflare's brand and business model - at least at the moment - so it's in their own interest to actually not do this stuff.

Only time will tell whether or not they pull a "don't don't be evil" on us, but that's a different conversation. :-)

Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by joveian on Friday April 08, 2022 @06:40PM (#30963377)
Cloudbleed and particularly Cloudflare's response to it (the way they publicly blamed Google) tells you everything you need to know about how trustworthy Cloudflare is. I personally use Google via DNS over TLS, not that it is a good option but I personally prefer that to the alternatives available near me. CenturyLink was intercepting DNS last I checked a few years ago.
Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by eli on Friday April 08, 2022 @09:19AM (#30956456)
Cloudflare promises that they don't in a legally binding document. Does your ISP do the same?
Re:Firefox DNS-over-HTTPS by TheCoelacanth on Friday April 08, 2022 @01:32PM (#30960087)
It is much easier to replace Cloudflare if they violate your privacy than to replace your ISP if they violate it. That helps to keep Cloudflare honest.