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Re:What software engineers can learn from the rapid collapse... by danielmarkbruce on Thursday April 07, 2022 @09:43PM (#30952415)
I don't work at salesforce, but I can almost guarantee people who work there will tell you they are miles from getting everything right. Every company is pretty messy internally.

As for theranos and wework - i don't mean those kinds of things. I mean standard non-fraud startups. The always positive culture is there, and at least for folks who take some pride in being rational, it is quite demoralizing.

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Re:What software engineers can learn from the rapid collapse... by Nextgrid on Friday April 08, 2022 @04:36AM (#30954701)
> I mean standard non-fraud startups.

Fraud is not black and white. "Toxic positivity" can enable shenanigans or conceal problems in an otherwise non-fraudulent startup.

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Re:What software engineers can learn from the rapid collapse... by danielmarkbruce on Friday April 08, 2022 @10:39AM (#30957416)
Yep true. I should have been more clear - I just meant that toxic positivity is more widespread, it's not only at fraudulent companies.
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