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Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by exfascist on Thursday April 07, 2022 @09:48AM (#30944378)
In fact, if you're using Linux on your workstation you'll use the same skills locally as you do on the VPS/bare metal (depending on your scale.) Arguably "cloud" services need more sysadmin skills, not less.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by ChasingEchoes on Thursday April 07, 2022 @10:11AM (#30944646)
Thats a very big if.

I have yet to work with a $corp that uses Linux for workstations.

Overwhelming majority uses Windows. Some use macOS.

The ocasional developer that uses linux will usually be in a VM, or if IT policies allow, WSL.

So yeah, running cloud services doesnt require sysadmin skills, unless you assume copy pasting from oficial documention "sysadmin skills".

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by xedrac on Thursday April 07, 2022 @12:06PM (#30946398)
That's funny... every team I've been on in the last 10 years has used Linux workstations almost exclusively, with a few Macs here and there.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by vidarh on Friday April 08, 2022 @05:52AM (#30955155)
In 27 years, I've had exactly two jobs where I didn't have Linux on my desktop, for a total of 5 out of those 27 years. In both cases, I still did all of my dev work on Linux.

It boils down to what kind of jobs you look for.

> So yeah, running cloud services doesnt require sysadmin skills, unless you assume copy pasting from oficial documention "sysadmin skills".

If that's the extent of how you're managing your cloud setup, then I could equally argue running bare metal servers doesn't require sysadmin skills either. When I did contracting, a large part of my income was to come in and clean up after people had relied on "copy pasting from official documentation" as a substitute for actual ops.

Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by lolinder on Thursday April 07, 2022 @10:00AM (#30944522)
It's far easier to maintain my own Linux workstation than an internet-facing server used daily by customers.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by exfascist on Thursday April 07, 2022 @10:02AM (#30944537)
Absolutely but most of the knowledge translates, it's the procedures that differ.
Re:Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud? by lolinder on Thursday April 07, 2022 @08:09PM (#30951860)
It's those different procedures that I'm trying to avoid. It's not that I couldn't do those things or learn to do them, it's that my time is best spent building and improving our applications, not keeping servers running, secured, and up to date.

At some point we hope to get to the scale where it makes sense to pay a human to do that, but at this point the additional cost incurred by an ECS instance over an equivalent server is negligible.