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Re:One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine by qiskit on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @08:00PM (#30926728)
> No, see, that's but one example of how your unwillingness or inability to accept any complexity or nuance gets in the way of thinking.

Or maybe I've heard the "tv license" excuse for many years now. Nothing you wrote is new to me. Surprised you didn't post a link to BBC edited wikipedia article.

> If you insist that everything is the same and all politicians are corrupt and all media are lying then you're just giving away any power you might have.

No. I insist that propaganda is propaganda. I've no problem saying RT is state propaganda because that's exactly what RT is. I've no problem saying that BBC is state propaganda because that's exactly what they are. I've no problem calling putin a corrupt politician. Just like I have no problem calling zelensky or biden or trump a corrupt politician.

What you are saying is my corrupt politician isn't corrupt because he is on my team. My favorite propaganda outlet isn't propaganda because they are on my team. That's the difference between you and me.

> That's why RT loves cynicism and tries to amplify exactly that work view: it's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Where did I hear that from? Oh that's right, it's the anti-RT propaganda. Funny how that works huh? Funny how propaganda say X and people just repeat it endlessly? You are the one amplifying propaganda you heard not me.

But believe what you want. BBC is a government created and funded state propaganda. This is a historical fact. You can invent all kinds of excuses if it helps you sleep at night. But it doesn't change reality. How crazy is it that only our enemies have propaganda? Only russia, china, north korea, etc have propaganda. We don't have propaganda. Nope. Your comment is proof that we have the best propaganda.

Re:One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine by kannanvijayan on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @10:56PM (#30927977)
These are insightful and deep thoughts indeed :)

> I've no problem calling putin a corrupt politician. Just like I have no problem calling zelensky or biden or trump a corrupt politician.

Don't forget Pol Pot. These politicians are all the same.

I'm reminded of murderers Oscar Pistorious and Jeffrey Dahmer.

Likewise the terrorism of the French Resistance and Osama Bin Laden.

What a unique and valuable perspective to have. I'm sure you'd agree that such enlightenment is a curse, which is why the more feeble minded of us hide our eyes from these blinding truths.

Re:One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine by watwut on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @06:18AM (#30930389)
While I agree on the larger point, this thing struck me.

> Likewise the terrorism of the French Resistance and Osama Bin Laden.

I mean, Robespierre probably killed more people and not exactly for better reasons. Reign of terror was exactly what the name implies.

Re:One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine by kannanvijayan on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @08:00AM (#30931072)
I believe you are thinking of the French revolution, not resistance. The latter term is generally used to refer to resistance against the Vichy administration.
Re:One App – Two Worlds: This Is TikTok in Russia and Ukraine by watwut on Wednesday April 06, 2022 @09:35AM (#30931767)
You are right, I have misread that word.