Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by pavlov on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:55AM (#30920597)

I've been both a shareholder (since 2013) and customer of Tesla, and probably won't buy one of their products again. I feel deceived about spending over $5k on that "full self-driving" package that three years later still does nothing of the sort.

The fact that I made a little money on Elon's coattails doesn't make it OK for him to constantly lie to customers.

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by cactus2093 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:15PM (#30920892)

150x on your investment in 9 years is more than "a little money".

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by pavlov on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @01:09PM (#30921723)

It was a very good return on a small investment. I mostly missed the post-pandemic boom selling too early, so I guess I made around 20-30x overall.

Doesn't change my opinion of Musk's practices. If he's selling very expensive features that are actually donations into the hopes & dreams tip jar, it should be clearly marked as such.

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by dwighttk on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:36PM (#30921177)

~10x? Or were there a lot of splits my numbers aren’t showing?

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by cecilpl2 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:47PM (#30921359)

Depends on when you bought in 2013. I bought in early 2013 at $32 (pre-split), for about 200x.

If you bought late in 2013 you probably paid ~$180, for only 30x.

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @01:10PM (#30921728)

I bought a Tesla in 2019 and chose not to buy FSD because I knew it wasn't implemented yet and won't be for several years. If you thought you were going to get FSD any time soon, you weren't paying attention.

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by pavlov on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @01:31PM (#30922067)

Paying attention to what? The lackluster sensor hardware on the Model 3? I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to that at the time.

That's not some kind of consumer protection escape hatch, though:

"Yeah, we sold them software that will never exist, but because it's actually impossible to implement on our hardware, it's their fault for buying it."

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @01:55PM (#30922462)

I disagree with the idea that the hardware isn't adequate. I think it is, but that the software is much harder than Elon thinks, and even after nearly 10 years, he still hasn't learned how hard it is.

I think the software WILL eventually exist. Just not on the timeline Elon thinks it will.

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Re:Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors by mypalmike on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @02:55PM (#30923308)

Maybe Musk himself wasn't paying attention?

"I would be shocked if we do not achieve full-self-driving safer than a human this year. I would be shocked." - Musk in a 2021 earnings call.

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