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Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by standardUser on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:30PM (#30914693)
I'm sure my perspective is skewed as a longtime carless city-dweller, but why would anyone by a ICE commuter car these days? I understand the options aren't expansive, but do most drivers really need anything beyond a Nissan Leaf?
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by Ancapistani on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @03:51AM (#30916358)
Yeah, your perspective is skewed. To be fair, mine is as well just in the opposite direction. I live in a town of ~15k people in the South.

For context - I’m taking my daughters to their homeschool coop tomorrow morning. It’s an 82-mile round trip if we go straight there and back; more typically I’ll run some errands and grab lunch to make a total of ~120 miles travelled. Wednesday one of them has a dentist’s appointment. That’s 140 miles round trip.

My family of four has two vehicles: my wife’s 2015 Kia Sorento and my 2000 Jeep Wrangler. They average 24 and 14 MPG respectively. We average around 35k miles per year between them.

We live “in town”, and the nearest grocery store is still ~5 miles away. The nearest convenience store is ~1 mile away. I suppose it would be feasible to walk or bike there… if I wanted to do so on a 55 MPH highway with no sidewalk or shoulder. There is no public transit.

The majority of people in the US live in “urban areas” - but it looks like the US Census Bureau considers a population density of 1k people per square mile to be “urban”. My town qualifies at 1,165.

Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by sokoloff on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:39PM (#30914758)
I’ve daily driven a LEAF for 7.25 years. I love it, so this isn’t some anti-EV whine. With that context, there’s no way I’d be happy with the LEAF if we didn’t have a second (ICE) car. Around once a month, I have a day where the LEAF doesn’t have the range to fully reliably do my day of driving so I switch cars with my spouse. I’m not going to rent a car on random short-notice 12x per year.
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by senectus1 on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @12:27AM (#30915296)
yeah this is why I'm still sticking with hybrids.
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by erik_seaberg on Friday April 08, 2022 @07:10PM (#30963612)
No garage. I parked a block away, on a street full of cars that have nowhere to plug into.
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by throwawayboise on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:48PM (#30914819)
Because you can get a reliable used ICE car for $5k or so, and not have to worry about range.