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Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by jrc2022 on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:00PM (#30914471)
SMMRY.com:

EVs Are Not Close To Being As Cheap As Gas Cars, Mercedes Says The electric vehicle industry has seen a massive transformation over the last decade, in no small part thanks to massive reductions in the cost of large lithium-ion battery packs.

EVs may not get much cheaper at all over the next few years.

Reaching so-called "Price parity," Schäfer said, just isn't possible with any current commercially available battery technology.

The kind of affordable, high-density batteries required to make it possible either don't exist or only exist in tightly-controlled lab settings.

While we wait for a breakthrough, Schäfer says they can't promise that EVs will get any cheaper in the near term.

While increasing demand for large battery packs has helped through manufacturing advancements and economies of scale, it's this scale that is now posing a large challenge.

Thanks to both the increasing popularity of EVs and continued growth in consumer electronics, the demand for lithium batteries is on pace to far outstrip the capacity of current rare-earth metal mines.

Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by Gravityloss on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:15PM (#30914583)
Why not just use LFP or iron based battery chemistry? Prismatic cells can be used. The car has to be designed to accommodate a physically large pack for good range.

Combustion engine efficiency improved and emissions dropped a lot over the years, even with no fundamental breakthroughs either. A lot of money was spent.

Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by snek_case on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:18PM (#30914601)
Tesla has already shifted the majority of their cars to use LFP AFAIK. It's good enough for 250+ miles of range.
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:42PM (#30914780)
Also can maintain 100% SOC without causing excessive cell degradation. Solid chemistry for lower range vehicles.
Re:We're Not Even Close to EVs Being as Cheap as Gas Cars, M... by CyanLite4 on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:52PM (#30914838)
China has a complete monopoly on LFP battery manufacturing. No incentives to lower price. Once other manufacturers come online, we should see price improvements. Biden’s DPA announcement last week gets the ball rolling