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Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by jleyank on Monday April 04, 2022 @05:54PM (#30912461)
How about leave it asap and pay reparations?
Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by trasz on Monday April 04, 2022 @06:29PM (#30912823)
It’s not enough. This has happened a couple of times already, and it’s reasonable to conclude the fake Russian state needs to be split into harmless pieces.
Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by cmurf on Monday April 04, 2022 @11:41PM (#30915073)
The legal mechanism to split up Russia is in the UN Charter. But the two problems that make it impossible, near as I can tell, (a) it would require a massive military intervention and occupation to do it. It would take a decade to deprogram Russians. (b) Only the Security Council can take such action and Russia and China are permanent members. Clearly they will veto any action holding Russia accountable let alone split it up.

The UN Charter can only be amended by unanimous agreement of the Security Council. So Russia can't be removed from the Charter. The Charter could effectively be dissolved, and a new membership could agree that Russia needs to be split up, therby declaring war on them. But Russia, China, and likely Indian out of such a system, how legal is that really? How legal is international law that only 1/2 the world agrees on?

We've moving past the stage of ever making things right with Ukraine, or Russia. I don't think any of the outcomes look good. Nuclear proliferation will start again. And absent institutions designed to avoid conflict.

Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by trasz on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @05:39AM (#30917001)
The legal mechanism to split up Russia is to decapitate it, so that individual regions will cease cooperation with Moscow.
Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by cmurf on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:08AM (#30919994)
This is nonsense. Decapitation is not a legal mechanism, it's WW3.

The individual regions lack the capacity to function without Moscow. The state borders were designed by USSR planners to make it extremely expensive (high likelihood of war) to break apart. The borders intentionally cross ethnic boundaries to make a future breakup worse than just tolerating the borders.

Re:What should Russia do with Ukraine? by trasz on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @03:45PM (#30923997)
Decapitation by NATO would be a war. But it’s fine if it’s done by someone from inside Russia - or perhaps by unnamed “terrorists”.

Regarding Moscow - can you explain what does it provide that regions need? And how does it make hard to break apart when it’s already been done in the past?