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Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by dagw on Monday April 04, 2022 @04:48PM (#30911772)
My point stands: upper class serve more than lower class.

While that may very well be true, it i worth highlighting that the reports you are citing as evidence is looking at the years 2003 and 2006-2007, and a lot has changed, economically and politically, since then.

Also their cut off for "high-income" seems to be significantly lower than what most people would consider "upper class".

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by relaxing on Monday April 04, 2022 @05:02PM (#30911894)
“Upper class starts at $65k/yr” is peak Heritage Foundation.
Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by monocasa on Monday April 04, 2022 @05:43PM (#30912339)
Jeeze, not just 65k, but 65k household as your neighborhood's median.
Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by YATA1 on Monday April 04, 2022 @09:56PM (#30914432)
Because that is reality. $65k is where the richest quantile for neighborhood median household income starts, by census tract [0]. The linked report was compiled by Dr. Shanea Watkins, a policy analyst specializing in empirical studies.

Unless you have sources that claim otherwise, my original claim stands.

[0] http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2008/pdf/cda08-05.pdf

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by monocasa on Monday April 04, 2022 @10:15PM (#30914581)
Or that just means that upper class doesn't start at the boundary of the top quantile.

I'm sorry but no stretch of the imagination has upper class as a couple making 33k/yr each. That's absolutely absurd. That's $16.50 an hour with no overtime.

Looking at it, upper class typically is the top one or two percent of the population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_upper_class

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by YATA1 on Monday April 11, 2022 @02:58PM (#30993129)
The OP specifically mentioned "upper classes". It is a fact that the lower classes (lowest quantile) are underrepresented, and the higher classes (highest quantile) are overrepresented [0].

[0] http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2008/pdf/cda08-05.pdf

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by analognoise on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @06:53AM (#30917421)
That's not absurd - if you define "upper quartile" to be so broad, you get the conclusion you want - that they're "overrepresented".
Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by YATA1 on Monday April 04, 2022 @09:55PM (#30914429)
> “Upper class starts at $65k/yr” is peak Heritage Foundation.

Yes, peak facts that don't care about your feelings. $65k is where the richest quantile for neighborhood median household income starts, by census tract [0]. The linked report was compiled by Dr. Shanea Watkins, a policy analyst specializing in empirical studies.

Unless you have sources that claim otherwise, my original claim stands.

[0] http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2008/pdf/cda08-05.pdf

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by actuallyalys on Monday April 04, 2022 @11:07PM (#30914901)
There might be good reasons to use that breakdown, but I still think referring to people with a household income of $65K as "upper class" is misleading.

There's also something a bit strange with this breakdown. The top 20 percent of households made more than $91,705 [0][1] in 2007. $65K appears to be the top 20 percent of census tracts. That doesn't seem right, though, because you wouldn't expect 20 percent of the population to come from 20 percent of the tracts, unless they're exactly the same size (which tracts are not), so maybe I made a mistake in interpretation.

[0] https://www.visualizingeconomics.com/blog/2006/11/05/2005-us...

[1] https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-p...

Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by chrisseaton on Tuesday April 05, 2022 @11:42AM (#30920416)
But ‘class’ isn’t income quantiles.
Re:Why I'm in the Army Reserve – an explainer for my friends... by YATA1 on Thursday April 07, 2022 @07:32PM (#30951585)
The OP specifically mentioned "upper classes". It is a fact that the lower classes (lowest quantile) are underrepresented, and the higher classes (highest quantile) are overrepresented [0].

[0] http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2008/pdf/cda08-05.pdf