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Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jchw on Saturday April 02, 2022 @03:37PM (#30891034)
Pretty sure the idea is that diversity (of thought and other) itself can improve outcomes, not that anyone is necessarily better or worse at their jobs.
Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jdrc on Saturday April 02, 2022 @03:41PM (#30891059)
well, if we accept that the success of business is the sum of its parts, then it is implied that the diverse people add something more than others
Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by fatbird on Saturday April 02, 2022 @04:08PM (#30891263)
"The sum of its parts" is a very opaque phrase here. But even without defining it, anyone with work experience has some understanding of the effect of workplace dynamics, environmental factors, office morale, and other intangible influences on one's productivity and hence, the business's success. In other words, there are emergent properties in the calculus of success, and pursuing diversity is one way of trying to control that.

"Diverse" people do not have to be intrinsically better employees, for them to positively affect the business's success.

Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jdrc on Saturday April 02, 2022 @06:43PM (#30892336)
Sorry, you put a lot of buzzwords there, but buzzwords do not constitute any proof. It's certainly true in low-skill businesses like , i dunno, agriculture that production scales linearly. If nonlinear interactions occur it would be interesting to name them, instead of attributing it to some kind of magic ether. I dont like this completely vague explanation because it's exactly the rhetoric that people mock when they want to attack diversity
Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by fatbird on Sunday April 03, 2022 @02:07PM (#30899200)
Well, to make it concrete then: I've seen teams get happier and more productive when some asshole is removed from the team; I've likewise seen teams get less productive because someone is added who drains morale, interest and productivity because they're continually negative and waste everyone's time with distracting concerns and a lot of "yes, but what about this?" type navel-gazing. I've found my own productivity fluctuating with different coworkers based on how well I communicate with them (where someone I struggle to interact with well gets along well with others).

So no, you can't view overall productivity as the sum of individual productivity because there are factors like this that are a function of group composition. And there's a lot of factors that are not functions of individual productivity.

Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jchw on Saturday April 02, 2022 @07:28PM (#30892613)
Then let’s hear some hard logic. You’ve presented literally nothing.

If the best response you have is handwaving team dynamics as a buzzword, and pretending its not a real and tangible thing, go to work and start abusing all of your coworkers and see if their performance remains consistent.

Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jchw on Saturday April 02, 2022 @05:30PM (#30891859)
Great; I definitely do not accept that, and in fact it’s pretty trivially false even if you can’t really prove it.
Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jdrc on Saturday April 02, 2022 @06:44PM (#30892342)
to begin with, that's logically false [unless u mean it's undecideable which is a vanishingly small probability]

i also have no interest in replying to flame bait

Re:L.A. judge rules LGBT corporate diversity law unconstitut... by jchw on Saturday April 02, 2022 @07:28PM (#30892607)
Please explain your logic. Are you saying that someone’s contribution to the company is: A.) mathematically exact (lol) B.) not dependent on their team dynamics?