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Re:Tim O'Reilly: Stop throwing sheep, do something worthy by bokonist on Thursday September 18, 2008 @11:50PM (#308907)
I'm taking that into account. HDTV's, laptops, iPods, etc, don't take many man hours to produce. My point was that the man years of labor necessary to support a comfortable, modern standard of living are actually quite few.
Re:Tim O'Reilly: Stop throwing sheep, do something worthy by dhouston on Friday September 19, 2008 @12:15AM (#308930)
sure they do. esp when you take into account inventing and bringing to market all the sustaining innovations (making hard drives smaller, better screens, software, etc. -- plus the operational overhead of coordinating all these millions of people's effort) needed for your iPod, laptop, etc. the number of man hours is staggering.
Re:Tim O'Reilly: Stop throwing sheep, do something worthy by bokonist on Friday September 19, 2008 @12:26AM (#308939)
Per item produced, the man hours are not that staggering. Here's my back of the envelop calculation:

A laptop costs about $1,000. Assume a $15/hour wage. That's about the average for most the electronics producing world, and it represents a balance between the wages of the engineers and the wages of assemblers. Make the generous assumption that 100% of the cost is labor. That adds up to 66 hours of total labor for my laptop. I probably own about $3,000 worth of goods total, and have no desire for anything more. That's about 200 hours of total labor - or 5 months. That will easily last me 5 years or more.

Re:Tim O'Reilly: Stop throwing sheep, do something worthy by corentin on Friday September 19, 2008 @06:30AM (#309125)
> and have no desire for anything more

Except for food, shelter, health, transportation, recreation...

Re:Tim O'Reilly: Stop throwing sheep, do something worthy by bokonist on Friday September 19, 2008 @09:53AM (#309245)
I guess it deserved a longer comment, but when you add it all up, the man hours come out much less than you think.