Re:Don't use containerd with the btrfs snapshotter
by tecleandor on Saturday April 02, 2022 @04:24PM
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IIRC TrueNAS Scale uses it.
It has a K3S to deploy apps, defined in a certain format (both in their official repository and in custom repositories), and uses that snapshotter to manage layers in the underlying ZFS storage.
Edit: I've used it for a while, although not heavily, and haven't had problems so far.
Re:Don't use containerd with the btrfs snapshotter
by tecleandor on Sunday April 03, 2022 @11:54AM
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I'd say something similar to Bilal_io.
In general as a NAS: No every function is already migrated to Scale, there are some quirks here and there, but as a NAS is working OK
Regarding the "Apps": It's too heavy for (really) old systems, but it seems to work OK in newer systems. Although you could in practice, don't expect to "just run a Docker image", you better use their "App charts". The "App" definitions are based on Helm and there is both an "Official" repository and a "Community" repository (Truecharts) of them. You can also create your own repo and add it to your Scale deployment.
I have some simple apps (Transmission, Heimdall and some other stuff) running in a E3-1265L 32GB RAM and everything es working well.
But I have a really old HP Microserver N40L as an offsite backup for my NAS where I've installed TrueNAS Scale too, and although the NAS works OK, if I try to install any apps, the K3S installation plus all the tools overhead is too much for the machine, and keeps it at 100% CPU almost permanently. If you remove all the apps and detach the storage from the App system it uninstalls all that stuff and goes back to work well again.
Re:Don't use containerd with the btrfs snapshotter
by Bilal_io on Saturday April 02, 2022 @10:34PM
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It got out of beta with the SCALE 22.02.0 release.
I've been using it a little bit, but I feel like they still have some quirks to iron out, especially since Scale abstracts K3s and doesn't allow users to control it directly.
* https://github.com/containerd/zfs
It has a K3S to deploy apps, defined in a certain format (both in their official repository and in custom repositories), and uses that snapshotter to manage layers in the underlying ZFS storage.
Edit: I've used it for a while, although not heavily, and haven't had problems so far.
I've got a TrueNAS mini and it's a bit of a pain to run a VM with single node Kubernetes in it just to run my containers.
In general as a NAS: No every function is already migrated to Scale, there are some quirks here and there, but as a NAS is working OK
Regarding the "Apps": It's too heavy for (really) old systems, but it seems to work OK in newer systems. Although you could in practice, don't expect to "just run a Docker image", you better use their "App charts". The "App" definitions are based on Helm and there is both an "Official" repository and a "Community" repository (Truecharts) of them. You can also create your own repo and add it to your Scale deployment.
https://github.com/truecharts/apps
I have some simple apps (Transmission, Heimdall and some other stuff) running in a E3-1265L 32GB RAM and everything es working well.
But I have a really old HP Microserver N40L as an offsite backup for my NAS where I've installed TrueNAS Scale too, and although the NAS works OK, if I try to install any apps, the K3S installation plus all the tools overhead is too much for the machine, and keeps it at 100% CPU almost permanently. If you remove all the apps and detach the storage from the App system it uninstalls all that stuff and goes back to work well again.