Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by refurb on Saturday April 02, 2022 @04:19AM (#30886679)

So when Obama became pro-gay marriage is he no longer a conservative? Or is he still one?

My comment was more about calling out a group that doesn’t actually exist or at least has no formal definition based on OPs opinion.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by watwut on Saturday April 02, 2022 @05:40AM (#30886979)

Yes, he became less conservative on the point of gay rights. Why would that be shocking or gotcha?

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by refurb on Saturday April 02, 2022 @05:47AM (#30887000)

“We had to drag conservatives kicking and screaming”

You didn’t answer the question. You agree Obama was a conservative. So is he still? Not “more or less”, you either are or you aren’t.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by watwut on Saturday April 02, 2022 @06:25AM (#30887139)

I don't think Obama was all in all conservative. I think he had some conservative views, gay marriage being one of them.

> Not “more or less”, you either are or you aren’t.

This is not true. This is both fallacy and a lie. This is also refusal to see worls as it is, insisting on comfortable dichotomy.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by refurb on Saturday April 02, 2022 @06:39AM (#30887195)

This is not true. This is both fallacy and a lie.

Then you and I agree on the exact same point. The OP was wrong to say "We had to drag conservatives kicking and screaming..."

There are no "conservatives", there are "conservative views".

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by watwut on Saturday April 02, 2022 @08:19AM (#30887662)

There are people who identify themselves as conservatives. They are subculture that very much exists. It is not true that there is no such thing as conservative.

These people call themselves conservative. They read what other self described conservatives write or listen to their talkshows. They alter their own views to conform to what those talkshows say.

These people hated Obama. Obama did not shared all that many views with them.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by refurb on Saturday April 02, 2022 @10:00AM (#30888351)

You’re putting people in buckets again.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by watwut on Saturday April 02, 2022 @02:41PM (#30890582)

So? Yes there is such a thing as a conservative or liberal oe whatever. And then there are people who are not conservatives and still hold some socially or economically conservative view.

It is hard to know whether you are trolling or genuinely ignored politics and culture from wherever you got born.

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by refurb on Saturday April 02, 2022 @10:15PM (#30893714)

How do you define a conservative if not for the views they hold?

So again, is Obama a conservative? If you say no, then how many conservative views must one hold to belong to the group?

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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by watwut on Sunday April 03, 2022 @03:03AM (#30895034)

So, you are trolling then. I answered these in upper comments.

> If you say no, then how many conservative views must one hold to belong to the group?

When you proclaim proudly "I am conservative" and share 70% of conservative opinions or more. Or, when you talk about liberal snowflakes. Same thing, really.

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