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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by majormajor on Friday April 01, 2022 @09:14PM (#30885002)
Most safety net programs are far more focused on "avoiding a catastrophic outcome" than guaranteeing a good outcome. This is why we don't see a mass migration from tech jobs to welfare...

But for catastrophe prevention... you don't have to think the government will care as much about your family as you do to want there to be a support system in for your family if you die, become unable to work, etc...

And "liberty" alone is so undefined as to be meaningless for these purposes. Is "paying less taxes so that the disabled don't have as much help" an example of liberty? For you? For them?

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by kelnos on Saturday April 02, 2022 @03:07AM (#30886394)
> Most safety net programs are far more focused on "avoiding a catastrophic outcome" than guaranteeing a good outcome.

Right. It's weird to me to see so many people framing it in the ensures-good-outcome sense.

A "safety net" is literally a thing that catches you when you fall. That's it. It doesn't push you higher in general; it just helps you avoid the lowest of the low.