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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by seibelj on Friday April 01, 2022 @07:27PM (#30884355)
Can always get a new job. But if every company has a monopoly union, can’t avoid that.

Really don’t understand the reasoning to not making union membership voluntary. Completely illogical. Basically you agree it’s authoritarian but “it’s better than the alternative” which is bullshit.

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by djrobstep on Friday April 01, 2022 @11:29PM (#30885622)
Can always get a new job. But if every company has shareholders, can’t avoid that. Really don’t understand the reasoning to not making contributing to shareholder profit voluntary. Completely illogical. Basically you agree it’s authoritarian but “it’s better than the alternative” which is bullshit.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by seibelj on Saturday April 02, 2022 @12:41AM (#30885882)
There are worker co-ops and communal living groups. No one forces you to join a traditional corporation. You could also (gasp!) start your own company… But that’s a lot of work!
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by djrobstep on Saturday April 02, 2022 @03:57AM (#30886598)
You've misunderstood. I want to work at the company, I just don't want to be forced to contribute shareholder profits - just like you want to work at the company but don't want to be forced to contribute union dues.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by seibelj on Saturday April 02, 2022 @04:29AM (#30886714)
The goal of a for-profit business is to make money. There are plenty of non-profits and government jobs if you don’t want to get with the program. You may be shocked to find a lot of non-profits also need to make cash to survive, however.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by djrobstep on Saturday April 02, 2022 @06:00PM (#30892042)
Again you've seemed to misunderstand. I'm happy to work at the company and make money, I just don't want to be forced to contribute to shareholder profits, just like you don't want to be forced to contribute to union dues. Why should one be voluntary but not the other?
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by seibelj on Saturday April 02, 2022 @08:21PM (#30892932)
I voluntarily join a company. Me paying some third-party non-governmental organization to “represent” me when I never asked for it is the issue.

However we keep going in circles and it is clear you are illogical.

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by djrobstep on Saturday April 02, 2022 @08:40PM (#30893060)
Similarly, I voluntarily join a company. Me paying some third-party shareholders when I never asked for it is the issue.

Where’s the lack of logic? The real issue is you won’t even begin to engage in explaining why these two things are different. It suggests to me you haven’t arrived at this position rationally, but through ideology (“corporations good, unions bad”).