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Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by javert on Friday April 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#30881239)
HN is not a political forum. I get that we like to talk politics here, and that's all well and good. But having someone make a brand new account to make a political opinion post that has little to no intellectual content seems like it should be unwelcome.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by zenexer on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:00PM (#30881273)
Given that many people are likely putting their jobs on the line by voicing support for unions, it’s unfair to forbid new accounts from taking place in these discussions.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by javert on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:36PM (#30881755)
I don't think the conclusion you reach follows from the premises.

There is unfairness in the world. That does not mean that HN is obligated to be a soapbox for all unfairness.

Anyway, comments on HN should be intellectually substantive. That one was not.

Yes, we should discuss this on HN. No, we should not have brand new accounts posting cheap opinion comments that are devoid of intellectual content.

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by zenexer on Friday April 01, 2022 @03:10PM (#30882125)
Not every comment needs to be intellectually substantive. It's okay to be human and express some excitement now and then.
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by javert on Friday April 01, 2022 @05:28PM (#30883500)
The problem is that political comments lead to unpleasant flame wars. Sure, people can express excitement. I didn't speak against that. You're doing a bait and switch by presenting it that way. Expressing excitement is very different than starting a political flame war.

Instead of having new accounts post empty pro-union comments and the anti-union people having to argue against them, it's better if we just not talking about that---unless it's an intellectually substantive conversation, in which case it's fine.

That's all I'm asking---I know it's too much for you to give.

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by judge2020 on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:10PM (#30881418)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404

> Why don't we have some politics but discuss it in thoughtful ways? Well, that's exactly what the HN guidelines call for, but it's insufficient to stop people from flaming each other when political conflicts activate the primitive brain. Under such conditions, we become tribal creatures, not intellectually curious ones. We can't be both at the same time.

> A community like HN deteriorates when new developments dilute or poison what it originally stood for. We don't want that to happen, so let's all get clear on what this site is for. What Hacker News is: a place for stories that gratify intellectual curiosity and civil, substantive comments. What it is not: a political, ideological, national, racial, or religious battlefield.

Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by javert on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:34PM (#30881722)
Seems like you are agreeing with me?
Re:Amazon workers on Staten Island vote to unionize by hyperbovine on Friday April 01, 2022 @02:00PM (#30881260)
Well, cast a downvote then.