Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub

Re:Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub by SpicyLemonZest on Friday April 01, 2022 @11:32AM (#30879217)

The effect of the problem is that, if the inclusive language bots win (which I'm confident they will absent some kind of counterargument), I'll have to communicate in a form of English I consider awkward and stilted and I'll have to implicitly endorse a couple of political stances about the concept of gender neutrality I don't agree with. I don't know how to quantify that into a "magnitude", but I don't think that's a precondition for discussing the issues of the day.

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Re:Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub by tomlockwood on Friday April 01, 2022 @11:44AM (#30879386)

> if the inclusive language bots win

I've worked in SF and this is the first one I've seen.

> I don't know how to quantify that into a "magnitude", but I don't think that's a precondition for discussing the issues of the day.

Sure! You go ahead and prioritize your brainspace the way you want - but I'm frustrated that I keep having to see culture war crap because people dug up the one twitter user or github user with a bad take. And I'm frustrated that otherwise reasonable people turn into moralizing frenzy-bots as arbitrary and poorly conceived as a bot that changes "man page" into "person page", when they see that tiny sliver of takes.

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Re:Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub by SpicyLemonZest on Friday April 01, 2022 @12:08PM (#30879718)

I don't mean this as a gotcha, but you don't have to see culture war crap! It's a lesson I personally learned this lesson much later in life than I should have. If "Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub" doesn't sound like a topic you want to talk about, it's 100% okay to not click into the comments section. (It's not even on the front page anymore - these kinds of posts tend not to last long there.)

As above, if it did sound like a topic you want to talk about, I think you should reflect on why that is and why people who aren't "moralizing frenzy-bots" might nevertheless want to talk about how they don't like it. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I've seen a lot of people say "I can't believe we're arguing about this nonsense" with the strong expectation that the result shouldn't be no conversation but a conversation where everyone agrees.

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Re:Inclusive Coding Bot on GitHub by tomlockwood on Friday April 01, 2022 @06:37PM (#30884021)

> I don't mean this as a gotcha, but you don't have to see culture war crap!

This article was, albeit briefly, number one on hackernews.

> I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I've seen a lot of people say "I can't believe we're arguing about this nonsense" with the strong expectation that the result shouldn't be no conversation but a conversation where everyone agrees.

Except, what you're effectively saying is you want a conversation where everyone agrees, because you don't want the people that think this is vacuous nonsense, to engage.

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