Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by jxramos on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @07:45PM
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bartering income, that's funny I always perceived bartering as an equal trade of no net difference. But that may be a perceptual thing, the value to the individual is equal but perhaps not on the open market of whatever the corresponding price tag differences are on the two goods?
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by daenz on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @07:49PM
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>Both parties must report as income the value of the goods and services received in the exchange. [0]
My understanding of it is the good/service you receive is considered income at the fair market value, regardless of what you traded for it. I suppose if you gave a good/service away to "purchase" something as a business expense, you could deduct the value of your good/service on your taxes. But IANACPA
0. https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/four-things-you-should-know-if-...
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by adastra22 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @07:51PM
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Any purchase is definitionally an equal exchange of value. It is still income.
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by f7ebc20c97 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @07:57PM
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So the income tax is essentially a ~30% transaction fee. Imagine a world without that deadweight loss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss#Deadweight_los...
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by tagami on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @09:45PM
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Yeah it’s inefficient, but that “deadweight loss” gives you the common infrastructure required for a modern society (roads, police, fire, et al)
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by tengbretson on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @10:42PM
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In the US nearly all of your examples of what we get in return are funded by sales and property taxes
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by HideousKojima on Thursday March 31, 2022 @01:30AM
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Specifically, roughly 70% of the federal budget is spent on the military, social security, medicare, and medicaid.
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by stuxnet on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @11:00PM
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Not to mention a gigantic military budget including all the alphabet agencies... all funded by that inefficiency.
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by f7ebc20c97 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @06:20PM
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Perhaps there is a way to pay for these things besides taxes? Unthinkable!
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by adastra22 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @08:37PM
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Costs are deducted though, so it is only 30% of the profits.
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by f7ebc20c97 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @08:43PM
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Technically everything is a cost, though, right?
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by adastra22 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @09:24PM
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These things are precisely defined in accounting terms though. Whatever you bartered away had a cost basis, and whatever you got in exchange has a fair market value. The difference is income.
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by f7ebc20c97 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @06:22PM
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What if you live in a closed bartering community of abstract economic business entities and everything is a cost basis for something else?
Re:Britain being forced to go cashless 'against its will'
by artificialLimbs on Thursday March 31, 2022 @01:20AM
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Not if you don't tell them about it.
Funny thing, bartering is still subject to taxes from the IRS[0]
0. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420