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Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by ajross on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @04:55PM (#30860659)
> In my experience, many people have a quasi-religious belief in the capability of modern medicine to perform what would otherwise be called a miracle. This belief is typically held without any evidence whatsoever.

Modern medical results would absolutely be viewed as a miracle to someone just a few decades back. Something like 90% of cancer cases are either cured or successfully suppressed (to the extent that the sufferer ends up dying of some other cause). Almost all endemic diseases have vaccines. Virtually no one dies of a bacterial infection today. Even most autoimmune disorders have effective treatments now.

The fact that there are problems yet to solve in medicine, and remaining voodoo in its practice, still doesn't change the fact that we're living in a miraculous age.

Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by chimeracoder on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:38PM (#30861123)
> Something like 90% of cancer cases are either cured or successfully suppressed (to the extent that the sufferer ends up dying of some other cause).

This is not correct. It's true in the US for prostate cancer, which is one of the most notoriously treatable forms of cancer, but it's not true for cancer at large.

(It's also not true for prostate cancer in many other developed countries, which actually have a worse track record at treating cancer than the US does)

Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by greedo on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:05PM (#30860765)
90% of cancer cases are cured or suppressed? I have to call BS. Cancer is the number two cause of death in the US.
Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by robotresearcher on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:27PM (#30860990)
UK data from 2010-2011:

"Half (50%) of people diagnosed with cancer in England and Wales survive their disease for ten years or more" [0]

Since lots of cancers and lots of deaths are in old people, 10 year survival is quite a high bar.

[0] https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-...

Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by chimeracoder on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:36PM (#30861087)
> "Half (50%) of people diagnosed with cancer in England and Wales survive their disease for ten years or more" [0]

Lumping all forms of cancer together is misleading, because cancers have dramatically different mortality rates. You need to separate by type of cancer, or else you're really just measuring the relative prevalence of different cancers.

As it turns out, the UK has a relatively low survival rate of cancers compared to other developed countries, including the US.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by eurasiantiger on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:24PM (#30860963)
That just goes to show how unfair the medical system there is. Not everyone can afford treatment, and those who cannot are already otherwise more at risk due to the affordability of processed foods imposing unhealthy ”lifestyle choices” as well as downright hazardous living and working conditions.
Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by chimeracoder on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:34PM (#30861071)
> That just goes to show how unfair the medical system there is. Not everyone can afford treatment, and those who cannot are already otherwise more at risk due to the affordability of processed foods imposing unhealthy ”lifestyle choices” as well as downright hazardous living and working conditions.

I get that this explanation fits with a common preconception of the US, but it doesn't bear out in reality. The US has a higher survival rate for all common types of cancer than all other developed countries, and this has been consistently the case for the last three decades.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Re:The Uselessness of Phenylephrine by travisathougies on Thursday March 31, 2022 @04:59PM (#30872139)
> Even most autoimmune disorders have effective treatments now.

As someone who has autoimmune diseases, you must be getting your information from a source I'm not familiar with. Auto-immune disease are a long game of guess, test, and adjust.