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Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by djbebs on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:41AM (#30853117)
And then they complain that they are poor, that they can't buy a house, that the evil rich people TM are are keeping them down.

Ultimately it's all about personal responsibility, and the incentives being create to make the lack of said responsibility the "right" choice.

Eliminate all forms of welfare and let people starve to death on the streets, and after a few years where they go hungry they will start to consider the idea that perhaps they should begin saving something

Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by Jcowell on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @07:17AM (#30853647)
> Eliminate all forms of welfare and let people starve to death on the streets, and after a few years where they go hungry they will start to consider the idea that perhaps they should begin saving something

Hoping I’m not breaking any rules by this. I know often the Hacker News Demographic can be very different compared to the general population. Especially the population that lives paycheck to paycheck without any means of the ability to save. So I want to be very clear here:

This is insane, Literally (in every essence of that word’s non-figurative meaning). Inhumane does not even begin to describe what this is.

Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by djbebs on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @08:00AM (#30853967)
> > Eliminate all forms of welfare and let people starve to death on the streets, and after a few years where they go hungry they will start to consider the idea that perhaps they should begin saving something

> Hoping I’m not breaking any rules by this. I know often the Hacker News Demographic can be very different compared to the general population. Especially the population that lives paycheck to paycheck without any means of the ability to save. So I want to be very clear here:

> This is insane, Literally (in every essence of that word’s non-figurative meaning). Inhumane does not even begin to describe what this is.

What's insane is the false belief that people cannot take care of themselves. This has never been the case in human history, and it is not the case now.

People live up to the expectations that are set for them, if you expect them to be children that will never take care of themselves, then that learned helplessness is what they will live up to.

If you expect people to take care of themselves, and you don't get in their way when they do so, then they will take care of themselves.

Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by ReflectedImage on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @01:05PM (#30857914)
Surely, they would just group together then just take stuff from rich people?

The moral lesson, would be not to play unfair games.

Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by djbebs on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @01:26PM (#30858197)
Like they are doing right now by leveraging the power of the state?
Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by ReflectedImage on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:20PM (#30860912)
Yes, but they would take more like 80% rather than the 10% they do today.
Re:45% of Gen Z and millennials don’t see the point of savin... by djbebs on Thursday March 31, 2022 @02:52AM (#30864531)
You understand that rich people are already being taxed more than 80% right now, right?