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Re:What is money, anyway? by kqr on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:41AM (#30829893)
Barter involves agreeing on a specific exchange rate. Graeber describes (among other things, of course) systems in which that doesn't happen; systems in which debt isn't quantified, but instead a general sense of who has been more generous to whom over their lifetimes.
Re:What is money, anyway? by Aunche on Monday March 28, 2022 @09:50AM (#30830456)
>Barter involves agreeing on a specific exchange rate

This does not match with any definition that I've seen. Graeber debunks a parable used by Adam Smith and economists used to explain why money is more efficient than barter. The problem is that the central thesis of the parable still stands: trade is more efficient with through a medium of exchange.

Re:What is money, anyway? by kqr on Monday March 28, 2022 @10:10AM (#30830657)
Wikipedia opens that

> barter, for example, features immediate reciprocal exchange

Reciprocality requires figuring out how many chickens a Ford Taurus is, i.e. the exchange rate.

Re:What is money, anyway? by Aunche on Monday March 28, 2022 @11:36AM (#30831636)
Graeber's examples of early debt are reciprocal. Otherwise, there would be no need to record them. Sure, it's not as transactional as money is, but it's a transaction nonetheless. I'll admit it's not immediate, but I don't think that's a particularly meaningful distinction. It's not particularly difficult to trust a farmer within your community when they say they'll offer you grain in the future during harvest season. They'd risk ostracization if they break their promise, which is close to a death sentence in that era.
Re:What is money, anyway? by kqr on Monday March 28, 2022 @01:59PM (#30833498)
I remember several examples of qualitative generosity and not quantitative reciprocity, but it was a while since I read the book, so I accept that I might remember incorrectly.