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Re:Killed by Microsoft by shireboy on Sunday March 27, 2022 @03:18PM (#30823146)
Came here to make this point. Also, killing off products is not unhealthy. I for one am glad that eventually someone had the sense to kill off Bob. Sometimes- like for devs invested in Silverlight- it can be frustrating, but no reason to keep inferior or outdated products afloat.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by neon_electro on Sunday March 27, 2022 @03:25PM (#30823214)
I came away with the same conclusion reading this and the Google sites, but I do feel like these sites nonetheless do a public service aggregating and organizing this kind of information, even if it feels pointed at MS/Google specifically.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by ripley12 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @05:30PM (#30824345)
Yeah, sometimes I wish MS would be a little more aggressive about killing off products. There are a few developer technologies that are in an awkward no man’s land: just barely supported without much of a future, but MS won’t say that so it makes for a lot of confusion if you’re new to the space and wondering what technology to use.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by Rastonbury on Monday March 28, 2022 @01:15AM (#30827354)
Likely they don't kill them because they have customers and have contracts stating support for X years.

Not sure why people are surprised, its enterprise software. Look at SAP, they "kill" their ERP every few years for end-of-life and upgrades. I don't blame them, customers don't sign perpetual deals and they expect to sign a new ones every 5-7 years for whatever the new flavor is. It's different for free products because there is no explicit end of life and it surprises people.

Re:Killed by Microsoft by nerdponx on Sunday March 27, 2022 @03:21PM (#30823167)
I am still salty about how badly they ruined Skype, though.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by mickotron on Sunday March 27, 2022 @05:31PM (#30824351)
Skype was amazing until it was acquired.

Would Zoom even exist today if Microsoft never bought Skype?

Re:Killed by Microsoft by jokethrowaway on Sunday March 27, 2022 @07:17PM (#30825154)
Yes, their proprietary scalable video codec is what makes the difference.

It's miles ahead any competition and pretty much the only tool which will give you decent calling experience on spotty connections.

Before zoom I was mostly doing audio calls on a computer, with zoom video is easily manageable (actually, not sure if that's a plus for society, it certainly increased the meetings / productiveTime ratio).

Re:Killed by Microsoft by fomine3 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:44PM (#30826143)
True but I believe Skype P2P mechanism is dead end on current computing environment. Few companies like Microsoft can host servers for such free services.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by adzm on Sunday March 27, 2022 @03:33PM (#30823301)
I wish more things like Silverlight were open sourced for the community at EOL.
Re:Killed by Microsoft by shireboy on Sunday March 27, 2022 @07:00PM (#30825038)
There is https://www.opensilver.net/ Not sure if any is MS contributed. And I’m not sure I can recommend it as a platform. I never quite bought into XAML over HTML/CSS/JS. I’ve done both, and just would rather build a web app than XAML for most of the type things I build.