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Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by renewiltord on Sunday March 27, 2022 @12:41AM (#30817767)
I don’t know anyone living paycheck to paycheck but it appears you do. Care to share what they would say?
Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 27, 2022 @11:21AM (#30820919)
I can share detailed portraits of the people I’ve spoken with, I will make time to put something together. In the interim:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30820753

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/20/intergenera...

https://archive.ph/bNEAc

The above story is not an outlier.

Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by renewiltord on Sunday March 27, 2022 @04:10PM (#30823615)
I finally got around to reading this. Must the poor people in these stories always be cast so unsympathetically? I found it sadly depressing because, despite my means, I can’t imagine supplying anything that could unspiral these people.

It’s perhaps a big lesson in avoidance. And how cheap it is for society to prevent bad outcomes relative to undoing them.

Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 27, 2022 @04:12PM (#30823639)
> It’s perhaps a big lesson in avoidance. And how cheap it is for society to prevent bad outcomes relative to undoing them.

I could not agree more, and this is where the largest gains at the least cost are to be found imho.

Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by renewiltord on Sunday March 27, 2022 @04:38PM (#30823864)
The actual machinery of this bothers me, though.

The straightforward stuff we can all agree about: (or perhaps not, and I’ll change my mind gladly with evidence)

- Build dense homes in poor places adjacent to places of economic activity so that private transport is cheap and public transport makes sense for the state

- Provide baseline medical care at cost from the state

But there is so much stuff that is trade-offs. Here’s some stuff I would want which others won’t:

- Baseline medical care should be MD-free and be purely NPs. Rationale: the state can boost NP production as needed / it has no control over MD production

- Leverage access should be limited but it should be possible to lie on the forms and face the music in the downside case. Folks like me should have access, but folks like this guy in the story shouldn’t. He’s going to spiral but I’ve weathered six figure losses with equanimity

- I want to control addictive substances but clearly prohibition doesn’t work and clearly many incapable people use them whereas also many capable use them. Ideally, people like me (smart, easy de-addiction) should have access and the remainder should furnish some sort of bond before they are permitted but that’s impossible

Also, I looked into the homelessness situation a while back when the COVID pandemic was in full swing and it is full of people who are not outcomes-oriented Gish Galloping their way to nonsense interventions.

The GiveWell.org of American poverty interventions would be nice, I think.

Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by renewiltord on Sunday March 27, 2022 @01:20PM (#30822005)
Appreciated. Which RSS feed / newsletter do I subscribe to to ensure that I get your story once it’s done.

Also thanks for the link.

Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @03:24PM (#30859711)
Re:I Am a Twenty Year Truck Driver, Part 2: How Truckers Are... by toomuchtodo on Sunday March 27, 2022 @02:05PM (#30822460)
I will email you directly.