Let’s not advocate schedule one controlled substances as the solution Even though it probably works

I can't tell if this is sarcastic. Marijuana is both a "schedule 1 controlled substance" (which is a federal classification) and fully legal in 18 states. The term "schedule 1" doesn't say much about danger, which is not to say that there aren't dangerous drugs on the schedule 1 list.

Why are you bringing marijuana into an argument with about meth? What do you think the MA in MDMA stands for

>What do you think the MA in MDMA stands for

This isn’t a very good argument. Table salt is literally Sodium and Chlorine, both of which are extremely toxic to humans but that’s irrelevant to anyone who understands that molecules have different effects than other molecules that share part of the same name.

Again though, mdma can kill you even if it’s completely pure. This is especially true if you take MAOIs or drink not enough/too much water or take any other meds that mess with serotonin. Please research things carefully.

The core molecule is amphetamine. Everything else is a binder that determines how long and how many passes it takes for your system. Adderall and methamphetamine only differ by a methyl group which makes it break down slower.

Because he is pointing towards this absurd hypocrisy? Are you aware that these substances are two different things?

Sorry, no. MDMA is not the same as meth. The molecules are similar, sure, but they are different substances with different effects. Trying to equate the two is pretty disingenuous.

That's the first time I see people mentioning meth and MDMA in the same convo. Also meth != methylene

US drug scheduling is incredibly political and does not reflect how harmful a drug is.

As an example, cocaine is a schedule 2 drug but magic mushrooms, which has the lowest potential for harm (even lower than caffeine), is a schedule 1 drug.

Ecstasy is meth dude, it ruins a lot of peoples lives. I’ve seen it happen so maybe you’re personally responsible but there’s a lot of freaking people that aren’t. You can destroy their lies if they try your advice and it doesn’t work out

No. Ecstasy is not a meth. Ecstasy is different substance with different effects.

Ecstasy/MDMA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA

Meth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

Ecstasy(MDMA) was like magic for the first time. It certainly should be taken only on special occasions but having molly with your loved one is beautiful experience.

> Do you think MDMA just breaks down completely devoid of methamphetamine as a metabolite?

AFAICT, that is correct; why do you think it doesn't? Name-based intuition?

Every reference, paper, etc., I can find of MDMA metabolites does not identify N-methylamphetamine (“methamphetamine”) as a metabolite of MDMA, and every identified metabolite retains the two oxygens of the methylenedioxy unit (whether it retains the whole unit or not) that distinguishes MDMA from methamphetamine.

Yes, MDMA doesn't break down into methamphetamine. They are different drugs with different metabolites and metabolic pathways.

MDMA breaks down into MDA, HMMA, HMA, DHA, MDP2P, MDOH.

Not sure why you have to insult someone in this discussion?

Ecstasy is NOT meth.

Meth will most likely ruin your life and you will want more and more.

MDMA is simply not very fun if you try taking it over and over again. It stops working and you just feel shitty for longer and longer periods without any feeling of getting high.

The problem is that a lot of molly that is sold today is full of things other than mdma. Meth is one of those things. You should absolutely use a test kit if you plan on taking anything.

Repeat after me:

Methylene Dioxy Meth Amphetamine

I’m sure that methamphetamine molecule just vanishes somewhere during digestion

You're not stupid, you probably understand that water is not oxygen, because you would die if you were drinking oxygen

Legality and morality are not the same.