Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by oh_sigh on Saturday March 26, 2022 @03:01PM (#30814358)

The irony being that a ton of marketed vegan food is dripping with palm oil, and if the companies produced it using oppressive, slave-like animal labor instead of oppressive, slave-like human labor, vegans would choose not to eat it.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by xvector on Saturday March 26, 2022 @04:04PM (#30814886)

The suffering involved in the creation of palm oil over the course of years does not come anywhere close to the amount of suffering caused by a single day of factory farming. The latter is many magnitudes greater.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by mauflows on Saturday March 26, 2022 @04:02PM (#30814877)

Two things can be bad at once and plenty of vegans will also watch out for palm oil.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by oh_sigh on Saturday March 26, 2022 @07:12PM (#30816184)

I agree - my point is that mere veganism can't be a moral baseline because it completely ignores the suffering of the workers who help produce the food.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by sweetheart on Saturday March 26, 2022 @07:46PM (#30816384)

It doesn’t. You misunderstand veganism.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Pamplona Bull Runs Reveal Dynamics of Crowds in Danger by oh_sigh on Sunday March 27, 2022 @02:10AM (#30818118)

I don't. Otherwise palm oil wouldn't even be an issue in the community.

[ Parent | on HN ]