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Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by maccard on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:00PM (#30812995)
I do most of the service work for a team of 25 - half developers and half non technical product people (art/design). Saas is substantially easier than writing it yourself or even running it yourself.

Github costs $4/user/month, sentry costs $25/month, and 2 digitalocean k8s clusters costs $20/month. For $175/month I can have a decelopment environment with basically 0 maintenance for a team of 25 people, including monitoring and alerting for my app.

Compared to running a local gitlab instance, deploying OpenTelemetry and running my own k8s cluster in aws, it's a complete no brainer to buy SAAS.

Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by speedgoose on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:05PM (#30813053)
Yes almost everyone does that. But outside of the common SaaS services, all SaaS companies with a “contact us” price I contacted came back with a “fuck you” offer.
Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by maccard on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:42PM (#30813330)
I've found the exact opposite. I work in games and many of the vendors we deal with don't publicly post their prices, but I've found their pricing fair and competitive. It's not "race to the bottom $4/user/month" but it's usually a fair quote.
Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by speedgoose on Saturday March 26, 2022 @02:44PM (#30814212)
That’s nice. I work in the data and cloud industry and everyone thinks their customers are MoneyBagsInc, which is very annoying.
Re:Running servers and services well is not trivial (2018) by simfree on Saturday March 26, 2022 @04:16PM (#30814990)
Same experience here with fiber and telecom services. They quote crazy prices for services I already have from their competitors at the lower published rates.

These potential vendors have zero or near zero additional cost to activate service (eg: the OptiTap is only a few tens of feet from where an ONT would be install), yet the sales reps call me every few months asking when I want to light up service and aren't ready to even talk price or SLA, despite knowing what we pay their competitor.