Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war
by stanito on Saturday March 26, 2022 @07:11AM
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I agree, brandishing SS symbols is misplaced and wrong by however few actually do it. Honestly, you opened my eyes a bit. Growing up in western Ukraine, my half-Polish family told stories of the Lviv pogroms and how numerous Ukrainians provided shelter for Jewish families and helped them hide but I never knew the extent of Ukrainian participation.
Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war
by justsomehnguy on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:39AM
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> I never knew the extent of Ukrainian participation
... and UPA[0] is just a resistance movement against Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, right?
It was "fun" to see UPA flags proudly flying in earlier videos in /r/CombatFootage.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army#Massa...
But I still cannot help but notice how the Western sensibilities changed from "Punch a Nazi!" (in 2020, when most of those weren't even true Nazis) to "Let's not speak of those actual SS-symbol-sporting troops because they are fighting for the good cause now."
Azov isn't representative of the entire Ukraine, no. That is Russian propaganda. It can be dissolved afterwards, yes. But they are on the far end of the far right, no mistake about that. Ukraine has a troubled history with its minorities, many of the guards in the extermination camps were Ukrainians, Polish minority was once targeted etc. People like Stepan Bandera should never be worshipped.
If Ukraine is to join the EU in the future, Azov battalion must be disposed of, much like Irgun in early Israel was. Hopefully without any bloodshed, but their toying with SS symbols goes too far. Even Poland and the Czech Republic, quite staunch allies of Ukraine, wouldn't tolerate this kind of shit being carried openly in a fellow EU country once the war is over.