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Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by jjfksowpogg on Saturday March 26, 2022 @03:54AM (#30810086)
I'm sorry you're confounded.

The way I see it, neo-nazi elements exist in many societies and they're not invading cities with tanks and shelling residential blocks. Nazis are a hypothetical danger in the future, Russians are a real danger right now.

It doesn't confound me that the mainstream media, which is mostly entertainment and little information anyway, simplifies and focuses only on the most relevant elements of a story. In fact, in this case it's a good thing they do, lest less informed people get confounded about how big an element the far-right is in this story.

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by unmole on Saturday March 26, 2022 @04:48AM (#30810285)
> neo-nazi elements exist in many societies and they're not invading cities with tanks and shelling residential blocks.

Sure. But organized neo-Nazi militias exist in very few societies. And they are embedded into the national gendarmerie in even fewer cases.

Mariupol is of little strategic significance. The only plausible explanation for Russia's obsession with the city is for narrative reasons.

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by inglor_cz on Saturday March 26, 2022 @04:51AM (#30810297)
Mariupol is on the Azov Sea coastline and the Russians seem to be intent on building a land connection between Crimea and Donetsk. The city and port are literally in the way. This is as strategic as it goes.
Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by unmole on Saturday March 26, 2022 @05:01AM (#30810348)
> Mariupol is on the Azov Sea coastline

A sea that Russia controls.

> Intent on building a land connection between Crimea and Donetsk.

Which can be accomplished by surrounding Mariupol. A besieged city, cut off from any reinforcements and supply lines is hardly a strategic threat.

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by inglor_cz on Saturday March 26, 2022 @05:05AM (#30810358)
Kaliningrad is an exclave too and yet it sits in the EU's territory like a sore thumb.

Pre-WWII Germans were very unhappy about Danzig.

Ukraine as a whole isn't really a strategic threat to a country of size and power of Russia, but I don't think that cool rationality prevails in the Kremlin right now. Their concept of "strategy" is much more imperial than what we are used to.

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by acthrowthrow123 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @11:47AM (#30812882)
> Pre-WWII Germans were very unhappy about Danzig.

Good point but I think 'unhappy' is understatement. Germany did ultimatum to Poland that they want to have a land corridor to Danzig. Poland said no and Germany invaded Poland later on. So there is a lot of similarity in current situation in a way that current Russia == old Germany

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by unmole on Saturday March 26, 2022 @05:18AM (#30810404)
> Kaliningrad is an exclave too and yet it sits in the EU's territory like a sore thumb.

I don't think anyone is really too bothered about Kaliningrad. Are they? It's not like Germany wants it back or anything.

> Russia, but I don't think that cool rationality prevails in the Kremlin right now. Their concept of "strategy" is much more imperial than what we are used to.

Oh, I don't disagree with it this at all. But the only way Putin can back down while still saving face is by pretending that the invasion actually acomplished something. If you wanted to justify the invasion on the grounds of Denazificatiom, it helps to take over the base of the only unit that can tenably be called neo-Nazi.

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by trasz on Saturday March 26, 2022 @07:40AM (#30810997)
Germans won’t, but Poland might want it back. Russia needs to bleed out first though.
Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by relativ575 on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:47PM (#30816703)
> Sure. But organized neo-Nazi militias exist in very few societies. And they are embedded into the national gendarmerie in even fewer cases.

Which are those very few? And how are they embedded into national gendarmerie there? Why Russia don't wage war in those few, only Ukraine? maybe because they exist in Russia as well:

https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-stat...

Or a more thorough research:

https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1514596/1/Wales.pdf

To quote:

"There has been a large increase in nationalistic and xenophobic attitudes amongst Russian youth, and Russians in general, since the collapse of the Soviet Union. In addition, under Putin nationalism has become a conspicuous political and social force"

Re:Ukraine reaches breaking point in Russia’s war by unmole on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:05PM (#30816788)
There are organised neo-Nazi militias in Russia? Neither of the articles you linked to suggest anything of the sort.