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Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by NoImmatureAdHom on Friday March 25, 2022 @12:35PM (#30804217)
The challenge for you becomes: find some set of traits where people are systematically "good" at them but bad (low) on g.

(It doesn't exist)

Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by nialse on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:20AM (#30811572)
There is some evidence that bodily-kinesthetic and musical ability does not correlate that well will g as other things, but they're still very correlated.

See for instance:

Castejon, J. L., Perez, A. M., & Gilar, R. (2010). Confirmatory factor analysis of Project Spectrum activities. A second-order g factor or multiple intelligences?. Intelligence, 38(5), 481-496.

Visser, B. A., Ashton, M. C., & Vernon, P. A. (2006). Beyond g: Putting multiple intelligences theory to the test. Intelligence, 34(5), 487-502.

Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by NoImmatureAdHom on Saturday March 26, 2022 @06:55PM (#30816086)
Thank you for this! Very interesting.
Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by yxwvut on Friday March 25, 2022 @04:44PM (#30806860)
You're making the same mistake of conflating 'good' with 'scores high on a measure'.
Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by kbelder on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:12PM (#30807096)
What is something that you can be demonstrably good at, that is immeasurable?
Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by yxwvut on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:02PM (#30816467)
Virtually everything even slightly abstracted from directly quantifiable tasks: sporting skill, driving skill, intelligence, etc. None of those are measurable without significant confounding or a 'dumbing down' to some adjacent task (that still probably suffers from some degree of confounding via 'teaching to the test'). Sport performance depends on your cohort, driving accident rates depend on your environment, intelligence tests have a learned component, etc. Trying to develop a system that allows rank-ordering of ability along an axis that isn't subject to influence from an irrelevant external factor is impossible.
Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by dTal on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:02PM (#30816779)
It kinda sounds like you're using "abstracted" to mean "poorly defined".