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Re:Mark Fisher’s “K-punk” and the futures that have never ar... by tablespoon on Friday March 25, 2022 @12:14PM (#30803952)
> I like Fisher's theoretical stuff a lot but I never was a fan of that piece, because it reeks of personal animosity towards newer generations on the left.

That may be so, but it doesn't mean there's nothing to it. Those "newer generations on the left" tend to think and behave in ways that can be pretty alienating to the rest of society, and so doom their prospects.

Re:Mark Fisher’s “K-punk” and the futures that have never ar... by jonathankoren on Friday March 25, 2022 @02:59PM (#30805868)
This is always said, but it is never true. The olds die, and the youngs become the old.

As Abe Simpsons famously said, "I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"

Re:Mark Fisher’s “K-punk” and the futures that have never ar... by tablespoon on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:05PM (#30807049)
>> That may be so, but it doesn't mean there's nothing to it. Those "newer generations on the left" tend to think and behave in ways that can be pretty alienating to the rest of society, and so doom their prospects.

> This is always said, but it is never true. The olds die, and the youngs become the old.

> As Abe Simpsons famously said, "I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"

Yeah, but just because some "it" is current doesn't mean it's better. It's quite possible the hip new thing is just the youngs wondering off on a detour and getting lost.

Re:Mark Fisher’s “K-punk” and the futures that have never ar... by slothtrop on Friday April 01, 2022 @09:33AM (#30877888)
This presumes the difference of opinion is purely generational.