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Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by Tenoke on Friday March 25, 2022 @12:09PM (#30803893)
>Roger Penrose..

Showing outliers just proves there are outliers not that the averages are uselesss.

>Those that play chess will note that excellent Rapid or standard players can be terrible Bullet or Blitz players.

I play chess and those are definitely highly correlated, I suspect at least r of 0.7 especially for those who have put decent time into the different controls.

Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by usgroup on Friday March 25, 2022 @12:19PM (#30804022)
I didn't mention Penrose because he is an outlier. I mention him as an example where tool use disproportionally effects resultant performance, or conversely as an example of where a specific link in a reasoning chain effects the outcome. I think that is more close to normal than not. I.e. you can often patch people, and they become better at something.

Regarding chess, research suggests you're wrong:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S14690...

https://hvandermaas.socsci.uva.nl/Homepage_Han_van_der_Maas/...

Re:Is there a general factor of intelligence? by Tenoke on Friday March 25, 2022 @01:52PM (#30805207)
The correlations in the graph in the second paper were between 0.4 and 0.9 so I'm not sure if I was that wrong.